{
"post": {
"title": "Tencent's Light of Motiram is such a Horizon Zero Dawn rip-off, they're hard to tell apart",
"selftext": "",
"url": "https://www.techspot.com/news/105768-tencent-light-motiram-horizon-zero-dawn-rip-off.html"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "While I understand you shouldn't be able to copyright gameplay mechanics (even if Nintendo really wants to be able to) I think the issue is that the animations look like they were pulled from popular games, which makes it seem more unsettling.\n\nLike, I could understand if they wanted to do their own take robotic prehistoric creatures (Palworld made their own \"pokemon\" and its fine), but the animations look like they were pulled from MHR and Elden Ring, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were.\n\nAs long as they arn't actually stealing assets from these games I think it should be okay.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's half an asset flip, half iterating on said assets. This just isn't ok. Like there's even the guard counter sound effect ping in one clip. I just cannot believe they haven't pulled assets into UE5 and started tweaking. That's fine if a) they're open for sale, or b) they pay the Devs who built them..... But they aren't, are they. The texture maps from HZD are practically identical.\n\nI appreciate that if they built this from the ground up, you can appreciate the work. But riding on marketing is legally blurry... The idiot in a rush test.... So.... It's legally permissable in a sense but damn we should be kicking back at this .....\n\nI'm not having a go at your position - I think it's acceptable in this kind of discussion - I'm just venting a bit, and trying to point out that even hard work can unfairly ride on the coat tails of artists (I'm referencing GG here, not Sony)"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Horizon Elden Hunter: The Game.\n\nThis just makes me even more curious to see how Guerilla's actual rumoured \"Monster Hunter Horizon\" multiplayer game will be like."
},
{
"body": "I think Tencent is trying their luck. They're based in China, and Guerilla are based in the EU, so if Guerilla decide to sue, it would be the first intercontinental copyright lawsuit in this particular domain. If Tencent win, then it'll open the doors for far more game 'copies'. The reality is that Tencent have no real incentive to *not* do this.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They can be banned from doing any operations in Europe. They have partial ownership of most game studios",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I really want to see tencent be banned in Europe just to see all the league players roaming in the streets trying to gank the government ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "LMAO"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Is there a name for this aesthetic of tech/primal?\n\nIt could be a genre, like cyberpunk, steampunk, dieselpunk, biopunk, atompunk (Fallout games are similar to this) etc.\n\nIf not, then Horizon devs have coined a new type of aesthetic which is a lot to be proud of, as long as the game and its story is not a straight out rip-off of horizon, I don't see a big issue.\n\nI mean, it's tencent, they're definitely not the ones I'd trust with 'good intentions' and 'definitely not ripping off other games', but I'm just speaking in the big picture's sense, to allow other devs make new games using the same style."
},
{
"body": "Lol, I only just heard of “Light of Motiram” and I thought it was just the early concept art for Horizon Zero Dawn."
},
{
"body": "Ah, Made in China. That makes sense. Their entire economy was built by copying foreign brands back in the 90s and 2000s. I wonder though, if publishers are laying off studios and devs upon game launch, it would make sense the animators would all hop to different companies to make ends meet, and so you'd start to see similarities in designs in other company games.( Not blatant ripoffs like this though)"
},
{
"body": "Wait so it’s not apart of the same universe? I just watched gameplay and thought “looks like they’ve dialled it up for the sequel”. How’s is this even allowed to be so similar to HZD IP?"
},
{
"body": "this actually looks good though"
},
{
"body": "Wait - this isn't a DLC for Horizon Zero Dawn?"
},
{
"body": "So what? As long as the game's fun, that is all that matters.\n\nEdit: struck a nerve, did I?"
},
{
"body": "Horizon look, with Elden Hunter gameplay? Sign me up."
},
{
"body": "sign me up for a better take on horizon gameplay",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Except gameplay looks like trash."
}
]
}
]
}