{
"post": {
"title": "How likely is the next update to break savefiles ?",
"selftext": "I'm really excited about the upcoming update and wanted to use the time till its release to make a new save, you know, get bases and resources set up, breed pals and so on and so forth but then again I just realised, should I ? I really want to prepare for it but I don't want to put in the time to prepare a savefile to jump right into the new content just for it to be broken upon update and having to do it all again.\n\nSo do you think the summer update will be a \"Start-from-scratch Reset\" or will you be able to just jump right into it from an already worked on savefile?",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1dcr661/how_likely_is_the_next_update_to_break_savefiles/"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": ""
},
{
"body": "The updates have never required a new save file for me personally and I don’t see any reason why this update would be different. At roughly 350 hours played on my save, I don’t think I would play the game anymore if I was required to restart (except for maybe on the day the full game is released).",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Really? I had like, 3 to 4 updates of this game where my save disappeared, fortunately, I was able to get it back every time, since the files were still there, the game just didn't see them",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Im on Xbox so its possible it’s different, but at the same time you were able to use the old saves to keep playing",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ah ok"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It’s just one map, with a new location added. Prior updates to Palworld have altered the map without disturbing saves (but destroying bases). Pocket Pair has also made statements that they don’t want to have to reset public servers anymore, and instructed people not to build on the big tree (which is supposed to be the center of the final map). That’s why.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Man, the final map's gonna hafta be fucking *massive* if that's supposed to be the center."
},
{
"body": "For reference, here’s what they said on Discord on May 1st:\n\n[Official server wipe and future operation plans] \n\nThe official servers were wiped today, May 1st, at midnight JST. The next wipe is scheduled for July 1st at midnight JST. \n\nThanks to all of you, development has progressed to the stage where we expect the official servers to continue operating for longer periods, but we have decided that we need some more time to resolve bugs and take further measures against cheating. \n\nAfter July 1st, 2024, we will continue development in such a way that you can continue to play without wipes. \n\nWe apologize for the inconvenience, and we ask for your continued understanding and cooperation with the trial operation of the Palworld official server."
}
]
},
{
"body": "that is the case for games with randomly generated maps. pal world does feel at least partially randomly generated, but the world devs send to live game is set in stone (at the moment at least) \n\nlooking like new areas in pal world are just going to be added to current edges of map.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yep. Either to the west of the volcano or the north of the snow area. My guess is the former"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Each update has made my current console world weird, I start fresh with updates.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "At least it's a fun game to start over!",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I'm just calling each run practise/ research . Absolutely loving the game and I still can't even access dungeons yet ."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "My wild ass guess is that they don't break saves. But I have no idea."
},
{
"body": "Apparently YouTubers and the like might get access to it a few days early, so that’d probably be the best way to know before updating",
"replies": [
{
"body": "In the meantime, I do hope they provide some more details"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Idk. I'm planning to start a new game anyways."
},
{
"body": "I think it is a PC diff situation. I have played since day1 release with 1 main world that has almost 400 hours played and have never had a single save issue. Alongside that 1 world I've made 3 other notable worlds and maybe 1-2 throwaway worlds and never had an issue with any of them."
},
{
"body": "The trauma of other games is highlighted by this guy’s concern. I remember dreading updates in other games like “ARK”, where each update would fuck up everyone’s shit. \nSo far Palworld just makes me happy and excited to see it grow and develop."
},
{
"body": "There's no sure way for us to know in advance. They're not just updating the map; they're adding brand new features."
},
{
"body": "I'd give it a 75:25 split on save files being preserved. Likely enough to not worry about my saves, but enough chance that I'm not going to go super deep on breeding and grinding.\nKeep it fun and don't put all your stock/game time into it."
},
{
"body": "Anything preceding the full release, expect anything up to and including full wipes."
},
{
"body": "Back it up just in case, but I don’t think it should be a problem."
},
{
"body": ""
},
{
"body": "backup!!! i learned it the hard way when an update broke my dedi server files"
},
{
"body": "This game is still in early access, dont get too attached they may one day have to be drug out behind the shed like ol yeller."
},
{
"body": "I would like to add in. On Xbox, one of the updates actually did break saves, and they had to hotfix it."
},
{
"body": "Over the years I've seen less and less games need to do full save resets unless something drastically about how the game works or the map is changed."
},
{
"body": "the game is still in \"early access\" and will be for several more months. best to assume that the next update can brick your savefile. if your file isnt bricked then it's a pleasant surprise. the optimist viewpoint of pessimism if you will. pocket pair had a janky set of updates especially on xbox, hopefully they got better quality control since. but again early access so theres plenty of chances that one will brick your save"
},
{
"body": "Wait for update to drop, give it a day or two, and check in with the subreddit.\n\nThere is a chance it might cause multiplayer servers to get borked... But, there is a fair chance that it'll be okay."
},
{
"body": "Imo every update should just wipe the worlds. It FEELS like the past couple of updates haven’t affected my older worlds, but on a new world the updates change stuff. Idk about online but for solo that’s how it feels."
},
{
"body": "No idea. It's why I stopped playing my current save. Any new patch for any early access game may wipe your save unless the devs state otherwise. I don't think they've said anything about this one. The past patches haven't messed with anything of mine but still."
},
{
"body": "Your savefile won't last long enough to receive an update anyway",
"replies": [
{
"body": "*Your savefile won't last*\n\n*Long enough to receive an*\n\n*Update anyway*\n\n\\- LunaticP\n\n---\n\n^(I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully.) ^[Learn more about me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikusbot/)\n\n^(Opt out of replies: \"haikusbot opt out\" | Delete my comment: \"haikusbot delete\")"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I have no expectations any more. Save files randomly being deleted from locally hosted dedicated servers has made me give up on this game until there is some official release planned where they can say there will be no more saves gone.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Welcome to early access. First time?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Thanks bro your sarcasm is super appreciated 👏 ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Glad to be of service! 😃"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}