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Is it worth running 5h of Lab just to get +20% on the skill gems? : r ...

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{
  "post": {
    "title": "Is it worth running 5h of Lab just to get +20% on the skill gems?",
    "selftext": "Question in the title. I was wondering if those extra hours circling the Lab would lead to a significant benefit or if I wouldn't even really notice it.   \nI might do it anyway, but I wonder what the opinion of other players is.   \nlg the\\_pwner",
    "url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1eaa2lc/is_it_worth_running_5h_of_lab_just_to_get_20_on/"
  },
  "comments": [
    {
      "body": "What do you mean? 5h? You could do it in 15-30 mins if quality on your skill gem is what you want. For support gems just do the recipe.",
      "replies": [
        {
          "body": "They are asking if its worth doing it for ALL Of their gems. 15-30 mins per gem spread over what 20 gem slots comes out to 5 hours.  OP doesn't seem to know know about the fact that you can do vendor recipe for Support gems."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "body": "In trade it's probably never worth it, in SSF I'd say it depends on the skill you're using. Some skills gain much more impactful stats from quality than others. In any case, it shouldn't take anywhere close to that long to get one gem to 20% quality by running lab."
    },
    {
      "body": "Trade league - No. \n\nSSF - Yes, but it won’t take 5 hours. To get a gem to 20 quality you’re looking at less than 45 minutes. If you’re fast or it’s a good layout it’s probably less than 25."
    },
    {
      "body": "For 1 gem its more around 3 lab runs max for 20qual. When running the last 2 labs u even get a chance to convert to a specific trans gem / exceptional and make big bucks",
      "replies": [
        {
          "body": "Haven't played for over 3 years and out of the loop - what does the lab have to do with gems?",
          "replies": [
            {
              "body": "helm enchants are gone, transfigured gems are obtained from divine font now, one of the options is adding quality to a gem",
              "replies": [
                {
                  "body": "Uh, helmet enchants are just poof? Interesting. And alt quality gems are removed from heist. So there's just one less heist type then now? Thank you!",
                  "replies": [
                    {
                      "body": "Blueprints are unified now. Rewards are one global pool."
                    },
                    {
                      "body": "Heist was reworked. There's only one type of blueprints now, that contain all the stuff that's left in there. Many chests were gutted, like unique, divination and such. But you can get (in theory) new ring and amulet bases worth a fortune. Rarest of them all, Simplex amulet base, is few hundred divines usually.",
                      "replies": [
                        {
                          "body": "Neat, thank you for explaining!"
                        },
                        {
                          "body": "So it's not really worth to run Heist? :(",
                          "replies": [
                            {
                              "body": "In trade, it's not the best. You can absolutely make some money in blueprints, few of the replicas are nice money early, but getting there takes some time and I believe it's more of waste of time to be honest, unless you luck out.",
                              "replies": [
                                {
                                  "body": "I loved Heist in Affliction. It was a good income if you knew what you were doing and doing it fast. I'm sad over the changes as it's my favourite mechanic. At this point I don’t understand them gutting so many strats - div cards, Heist, recent Delve changes that gut it too",
                                  "replies": [
                                    {
                                      "body": "We have so many ways of getting money nowadays, that over time mechanics need to get nerfed, otherwise we would be swimming in divs after 2 maps.",
                                      "replies": [
                                        {
                                          "body": "Heist wasn't making that much money considering how long it takes to really get it going tho, it's one of the reasons why not many did it in the fire place.\n\nNerfed and keeping it in check is different. Betrayal got so gutted that it's barely just running Catharina x10 a day.",
                                          "replies": [
                                            {}
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                                        }
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      ]
    },
    {
      "body": "depends on how useful the quality is, some gems it might be worth it, some not."
    },
    {
      "body": "It's really just a matter of could you farm the currency to trade for the GCPs in less time (although it's also worth considering you can do quality a bit slower and make some profit from transfigured gems and facetors lens while running lab)."
    },
    {
      "body": "If you need 5 hours for it then it for sure is not worth...",
      "replies": [
        {
          "body": "Something a lot of you commenting on his 5hour comment aren't realising is he isnt saying qualitying 1 gem. Hes asking about qualitying ALL of them. roughly 20 gems. its obvious the OP doesnt realise you can do vendor recipe for support gems. 15mins ish to do 1 gem. 20 gems = 5 hours"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "body": "Even in SSF, you usually just do the main gem if it has good quality bonus. The rest you do with GCP's once you acquire them."
    },
    {
      "body": "TBH, I wouldn't bother with it. I've never had a lack of GCP either from the sell recipe or just picking them up as I play."
    },
    {
      "body": "… just loot quality gems and do the 40% recipe"
    },
    {
      "body": "So you need 90 minutes per lab?",
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