{
"post": {
"title": "Marvel Rivals - A Potential Rival To Overwatch? Your Thoughts",
"selftext": "",
"url": "https://v.redd.it/2rlywwvys1rc1"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "Art style is great\n\nThe combat looks cool\n\nBut it’s made by NetEase",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Idk. The movement seems stiff overall. Animation doesn’t seem too bad, but 3rd person shooter seems kinda weird",
"replies": [
{
"body": "gameplay and animation wise, it reminds of this game that was popular for like 3 days called spell break"
},
{
"body": "To be fair, the [original gameplay trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dushZybUYnM) for Overwatch isn't very unstiff either...",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Wow what a throwback, can’t believe it’s been nearly a decade since the first announcement!"
},
{
"body": "Not the mercy in the frontlines twice 😭"
},
{
"body": "With 10 years ago standards, its 2024 brotha not 2014."
}
]
},
{
"body": "The only one who is really stiff is Spider-Man, because his movement doesn’t really fit into this game, they only added him because he’s popular (and I love him)"
},
{
"body": "u dont wanna play 1st person as spiderman it would be very disorienting. \nit is actually a interesting take on the hero shooter genre where moba aspects and ability use cases is more impt than gunplay. \na game like overwatch even though its first person doesnt really respect gunplay anyway with the recent hp buffs and removing of one shots . So if ur okay with playing overwatch u shld feel even better with playing this."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "It'd be good to have competition but the game looks like shit compared to Overwatch",
"replies": [
{
"body": "sadly, its because it is shit."
}
]
},
{
"body": "It's a Netease game...",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They made Diablo Immortal with Blizzard which brought in 500 million in 2023. 🤷♂️ ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "The internet was surprised to discover that people as a matter of fact, *did* have phones.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I honestly thought the game sucked. Tried playing it but it felt like a neutered D3 forced on your phone with tons of micro-transactions. \n\n\nI was shocked to discover how much money it made. I think for kids on cheap phones it might be a fun game. "
}
]
},
{
"body": "Money wise it might compete. I guess that's all is needed to scare Blizzard. Gameplay wise tho I doubt it'll be good.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I've got over 50 hours on the alpha already, and as an Overwatch vet I can say it surpasses current OW in terms of gameplay",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Remains to be seen."
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "they developed diablo immortal. i'm not holding my breath, but competition is always good.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "That’s my thought. I would love for Blizzard to actually have some Overwatch competition so they maybe up their game a little more. Right now I feel like they get to coast so much which is why they keep getting to just sit on doing $20 skin recolors and promising vague changes months and months down the line. ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Brother any more competition and the game is about to get the plug like heroes of the storm\n\nWhen they said that they arent coming out with overwatch2 pve and from the look of how bad the professional scene has gone i thought the game was about to explode and go down.\n\nAm guessing they cut on the budget and just kept it alive with minimal development because it has a decent player base. Eventually, the numbers will keep going down and they will pull the plug\n\nGive the game competition and you speed the proses."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Diablo Immortal is a good game with extremely bad monetization"
},
{
"body": "Competition ? You mean lower skins prices ? \n\n:D"
}
]
},
{
"body": "We've seen 100 games dubbed as the \"Overwatch killer\" be announced. Most don't even get made, and very few of the ones who do are successful. Apex and Valorant are the only ones who have reached similar heights to Overwatch, and those games are significantly different from Overwatch.\n\nAt this point the only game that's stuck to the Overwatch formula that's actually put a dent in the game is overwatch itself.\n\nIt'll be nice for some more competition ig, but games that can rely on an existing IP to make money usually lack the QoL and polish that other multiplayer games need in order to prove themselves.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "True. If Paladins wasn’t so buggy, they’d be a decent rival. And a lot of people thought Battleborn had a chance to rival Overwatch, but sadly that didn’t last long and Battleborn got lost in the wind",
"replies": [
{
"body": "At least, the wind turned a bit in a good way, as you can nowday play at least the Battleborn's pve in solo on pc thank to a modder, so it's not so lost anymore\\^\\^"
},
{
"body": "Overwatch and all those games have been struggling \n\nOverwatch is just more relevant because it was made by Blizzard and had a huge competitive scene for some time but the game has lost a lot of players and keeps losing."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Its a marvel game. It cant be good. I will play it for a short while but it wont even beat paladins",
"replies": [
{
"body": "marvel snap is a great game"
},
{
"body": "Ever heard of Marvel vs. Capcom?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I played dozens of hours. But this is chaos pure crazy stuff. But from a fighting games sweat perspective not a very good fighter. Fun with friends tho"
}
]
},
{
"body": "1. Paladins is children's version of Overwatch. \n2. Made up your mind before even seeing the game in actual action.....\n\nYeah....... says a lot.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Since when is Paladins for children lol have you seen some of the skins there?\n\nPaladins is as fun as overwatch, the only reason why it isn’t a proper competitor it is because it’s a little unplayable at the moment as it has lots of bugs and bots. If it was properly fixed it would definitely have a lot of people move to that game.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I wouldn't say as fun as ow with what you said plus the hit boxes feel super wonky.\n\nIt's like easy ow."
},
{
"body": "Pladins is not kid's Overwatch, but it is also nowhere near as fun as Overwatch."
}
]
},
{
"body": "There is no such thing as a good Marvel game. The closest thing to a good Marvel game, were the X-Men ARPGs back on the PlayStation. The Capcom Fighting games don't count because those are Street Fighter games.",
"replies": [
{
"body": " \n\"There is no such thing as a good Marvel game.\" \nmarvel spiderman? it's been nominated as goty in the game awards along side alan wake 2, re4 remake and baldurs gate 3 in 2023 and in 2018 too along side god of war, rdr2 and mh world.\n\nthey didn't win but to be included in that category with games like gow, rdr2, baldurs gate 3 etc..\n\nit's already a win plus thousands of games release a year but only 6 get nominated for the goty so if a game is already in that category then it's a no brainer that game is great."
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "You guys asked for 6 vs 6 ...",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Not me. I don’t have any issues with 5v5"
},
{
"body": "I do miss 6v6, admittedly. But there were a lot more things than 6v6 that made OW1 so amazing. I don't expect this developer to recapture that magic, but I'm curious enough to keep an eye on it."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Looks fun to me. Not at all worried about it taking me away from overwatch 2. However this footage is pre-alpha. Won't release till 2025."
},
{
"body": "massive levels of doubt...\n\nNetEase has historically done bad in the West. All of the games they've targeted with the States and EU in mind have all failed to take a solid foothold. Why? Cuz all their games are far too influenced by Chinese gaming trends. I don't give this game any faith past 2 or 3 months at the most.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Might not make it in the west and eu but asia has like 60% of the world population. explains why overwatch now only as 40k players per day on the steam charts and naraka bladepoint (made by tencent) has 300k players per day right now on steam charts"
}
]
},
{
"body": "trust me, if it's based on popular ip - it'll die in a few months, multiversus is an example, another example is that disney game that even i forgot name of, but it was basically open world shitbox\n\nunless they maintain a fanbase, there is no way that game will live long",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Tbf Multiversus died because they took it offline for some asinine reason. It's coming back in may i think",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah it was actually really popular and probably will be again lol. "
},
{
"body": "hi, im from the future. multiverses came back and immediately died. not gonna review it but holy, it crashed and BURNED. its basically gone for good now."
}
]
},
{
"body": "multiversus was in an open testing phase",
"replies": [
{
"body": "People always forget this, they even said at launch it's just testing and will go down after. \n\nWe just didn't realize how long it'd be gone for."
}
]
},
{
"body": "I expect this game to be similar to the new SWBF games, maybe with better publicity.\n\nThose games coasted off of their IP. If you took away the reskin of Star Wars, it was a buggy FPS with a poor QoL and little support from the devs."
},
{
"body": "Multiversus still has hype to this day wtf you on mate",
"replies": [
{
"body": "its peak in the last month was 4k and its average is 2k. the game is dead, it was bad and the devs/investors killed it. granted, it was still pretty shitty in this \"test period\" but the community had hope. we should not have."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "It has Magik so l definitely try it"
},
{
"body": "How about we wait till we play it before deciding?"
},
{
"body": "combat looks dumb af. seems like every hero has abilities made for a single payer game, then put into a multiplayer one?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "This is an interesting take, what about it makes it seem like it's made for single player?"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Third Person Shooter is not a rival for a First Person Shooter. Never. Totally different game for a totally different market.\n\nThe voice acting is also crap. The animations are trash.\n\nThe graphics look nice though. If game has Japanese dub and I can switch to it I might play it, because that voice acting is atrocious.",
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"body": "Is it made by the same dude who made Marvel Snap? If so then yea it will probably be a fun game. \n\nI say that cause the guy made marvel snap was the guy who made hearthstone, and as soon as he left hearthstone started going to shit",
"replies": [
{
"body": "constructed became shit as soon as they started releasing expansions that cost 80 euro, Ben Brode was still the lead designer. This being a NetEase game would mean we can expect that from the start.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ben Brode left shortly after they started doing insane expansions. \n\nHe left early 2018, and before then the only crazy expansions were in 2017. Before that they had very few expansions that didn’t cost nearly as much. On average about once a year. \n\nAfter Ben Brode left they started going crazy with expansions."
}
]
},
{
"body": "they made Marvel Super War its a moba look it up its for smartphones 📱 there is also thanos once he gets all his stones he can snap KO insta kill anybody on the enemy team 😂"
}
]
},
{
"body": "It will be a competitor for about 2 weeks",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I will go back to this comment once marvel rivals releases and wait for 2 weeks to see their steam charts",
"replies": [
{
"body": "im gonna make a prediction just based on how i feel about the game. \n200k on launch \n80k after a month \n15k after 6 months \n5k after a year \nwe'll see in about 15 months from now."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "it’s third person, it won’t kill overwatch"
},
{
"body": "lol, no way \n\n\nBlizzard ain't what it used to be, but OW isn't about to be taken down by some P2W MCU clone. It doesn't even look particularly polished."
},
{
"body": "its a rival to Paladins maybe, the combat and maps look similar, overwatch combat is so much cleaner."
},
{
"body": "Gameplay looks like dogshit shat out of a piece of shit"
},
{
"body": "Nope lol"
},
{
"body": "God does it look bad"
},
{
"body": "I kinda disagree with the art style. Looks pretty gross to me, but the gameplay looks nice. Who knows where it will go"
},
{
"body": "It will 100% be the next biggest game in the hero shooter genre. But I feel like it will stand beside overwatch instead of replacing it",
"replies": [
{
"body": "sadly, its not even close. unless the make some magic before full release, we're looking at something that is less competitively interesting than paladins. i do not have hope."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Not even close, gameplay looks like Mobile trash game",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Well, it’s only coming to mobile and PC. Something note. Where are Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow? Gone be locked behind overpriced paywalls along with anyone else not shown in the trailer"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I'm really not seeing how this is meant to be an Overwatch killer. Maybe I'm just not a Marvel fan, but this looks mid at best to me.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Hey, don’t shoot the messenger. This is just what people are saying online. How they can say that so confidently about a game only available on PC n Mobile made by a NetEase is beyond me 🤷♂️",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Oh no, you're fine, that wasn't meant with any nasty intentions towards you. I've just been seeing a couple posts about it here and there and I just don't see what they're talking about personally.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I don’t know either. I can’t see how anyone can say with confidence that a Marvel, which haven’t been heavily successful in years, that’s PC/Mobile exclusive and made by NetEase, a company with a very poor game history, can actually compete with Overwatch 2\n\nPlayers may complain about it, but even they can’t deny which game looks better. OW has better graphics, 1st person shooter, smooth gameplay, unique heroes, and well designed maps\n\nMarvel Rivals trailer shows where it’s lacking. The heroes look good and the maps impressive, but the gameplay looks stiff. They also have team ups, but that seems to be the only unique thing. And not to put this out there, but a majority of the characters look like Marvel ripoffs of Overwatch heroes in a number of ways.\n\nBruce is literally Ramattra going into Nemesis Form, Tony attack is practically Pharah’s ult, Loki honestly a mix of Reaper and Echo"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Sauce: https://youtu.be/DA4iVv4MARE?si=N0ihEAlnxPriEh1K",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah looks like it"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Art style looks good, but the game looks super sluggish."
},
{
"body": "I wish it were dc instead lol"
},
{
"body": "Look like a mobile game tbh.\nSeem interesting but ultimately it won't work I think, except if they make it MOBA style with several lain or other objective based that overwatch is actually. Ow is a fast spaced game. This look like slow as hell. Also environment destruction is cool but it s one of the harder things to equilibrate so will see but I don't have high hope for this one. \n\nTldr look fun for 1 hour and extremely boring after"
},
{
"body": "Did I just watch Loki turn into black panther? Tf?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I’m guessing that’s the games version of an ult. Loki’s ult basically being shapeshifting into the enemy team members. Where’s that can I copy your homework meme? Because that is straight up Echo fr XD",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah this is pretty lame, it's a weird choice for a game company to come REALLY close to what's now a blizzard game."
},
{
"body": "While he does seem like Echo … Loki can and does shapeshift into people, that’s his gimmic in the MCU.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "He’s also the son of a frost giant yet nobody seems to remember that"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I don’t like the visuals; feels like a mixture of Fortnite and Valorant, both games I don’t like"
},
{
"body": "Every hope for a Marvel skins collab in Overwatch is now dead",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Oh sweetie. That was never a possibility. Blizzard ain’t gonna work with Disney, who are much worse than Blizzard when it comes to “it’s our way or the high way”. Note how the collab skins are meant to look more like cosplay? Yea. Disney would want any hero getting a marvel skin to look exactly like the hero instead of a costume. Not to mention, Disney would force Blizzard to charge more for the bundle"
}
]
},
{
"body": "No hitscan? No thanks"
},
{
"body": "im pressing x"
},
{
"body": "It looks way too floaty for me to enjoy"
},
{
"body": "I’m definitely going to play it idk if I’ll keep playing it might be a nice break from ow"
},
{
"body": "Who tf is sexy galactus supposed to be",
"replies": [
{
"body": "galacta or gail his daughter"
}
]
},
{
"body": "would be, if it wasn’t currently PC exclusive",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Well, it’s actually PC and Mobile. But that’s one of many reasons why most games can’t compete with Overwatch. Blizzard has OW on PC, Xbox, PS, and Mobile. Other games don’t branch out beyond exclusive platforms and that’s part of the reason non have been any competition to Overwatch",
"replies": [
{
"body": "i did hear that it’s gonna be making a switch to all platforms at some point, which maybe then it’ll be a competitor, but idk when that’ll be so",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It would have to survive past release for that to happen",
"replies": [
{
"body": "fair point. tho it has been a while since we’ve gotten a high quality team based marvel game on consoles and PC since the Ultimate Alliance games, so who knows"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "We have overwatch at home!"
},
{
"body": "I don't think it will scratch the same itch OW does for me but looks neat, I'll probably give it a try."
},
{
"body": "This is a paladins rival"
},
{
"body": "I'd like this to not be pvp tbh but it looks like it could be fun"
},
{
"body": "A potential rip off of overwatch more like it"
},
{
"body": "It's hard to judge without actually playing it.\n\nBut I think they're late too the party. And mixing The finals with Overwatch and painting it with Marvel colors won't be enough to make it work."
},
{
"body": "No thor? 🥲"
},
{
"body": "WE GOT YURI AS SPIDEYYYYY!!!!!!!"
},
{
"body": "No"
},
{
"body": "I Love Marvel, but that Game Looks Shit af in my opinion"
},
{
"body": "Buy the founders pack today and get hulk in Brown shorts, hulk in yellow shorts and a cool hat! That's 200% value!"
},
{
"body": "Chinese devs so no"
},
{
"body": "Chinese devs so no"
},
{
"body": "Honestly unironically I think they could coexist. It really looks more like smite than OverWatch in my opinion",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ok. Great. Love the enthusiasm. But just putting this out there. Marvel hasn’t had the best luck in the gaming industry and NetEase are the ones making this game this time, who have had no memorably successful games. \n\nSo the fact that Marvel has them making this game shows an absolute lack of faith for its success. I’m just saying, but it says a lot about where this game will go upon release. If it’s not a hit within a year, Marvel will pull funding from it faster then Disney cancels Star Wars games made by independent creators.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Well yeah, but what I'm trying to say is that if it goes well and if this game turns out to be good when it's fully released, I don't think it's necessarily going to kill OverWatch. I think there is plenty of room for them to both exist because they are still different enough. The characters are similar true, but much of the meat of what I've seen in the gameplay seems very different from OverWatch and while there are some visual similarities, it does look a whole lot more like smite than OverWatch to me",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I never said anything about the games being similar or not being able to coexist or anything like that. I said the game has little hope because of the creators alone. Something else to note is that NetEase are making people beta testing it keep a strict silence, which already doesn’t inspire hope for the game if they don’t want beta testers talking or giving their opinion about it. That’s red flags alone. \n\nAll these things considered, while I’m not saying the two games, Overwatch and Marvel Rivals, can’t coexist, the thing is. With red flags like that on a game that hasn’t even released yet, probably just another game that people say will kill Overwatch, but sadly won’t even touch the same level and go the same route as other games like Paladins and Battleborn 🤷♂️",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Only reason I made that comment was because your initial reply had absolutely nothing to do with the comment I made which is that if the game succeeds I see no reason why we can't have them both. You brought up stuff about the developer and while it is all in my opinion, true that was not the point of my initial comment"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "i really don't like the 3rd person makes me think of fortnite 🤢",
"replies": [
{
"body": "This fortnite season isn't bad but yeah I don't want another one"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Better graphics and map details it seems"
},
{
"body": "Everyone immediately saying it’s a netease game, which yeah there will def be micro transactions, but marvel snap is also net ease and apparently the micro transactions aren’t horridly set up, so maybe it will be cool\n\nI’m DEF excited to try it out, feels like OW is slightly more Smite style lol!\n\nCompetition is always good!!"
},
{
"body": "ok now name at least one sucessful game about marvel for last like 10 years?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Those Spider-Man PS4 games seemed to do well.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "ok, that's fair, this game(and sequel) is kinda succeeded ngl. But imo, those are Sony Insomniac cooked, but again, those budget were exceeded 300.000.000$, which is kinda a lot. It's almost twice as much as failed Marvel's Avengers. Those usually spend a lot of money on games, which is in the end are just p2w lame ass dogshit games like those chinese p2w grinders. But yea, spider-man is kinda exception here (i wonder why, if this game would release closer to best games of all time it would be considered as meh, cuz it's full of cons and those cons denied by absence of competition on release date)"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Marvel snap"
},
{
"body": "Midnight Suns?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I've never heard of this game until i checked info before commenting. The main issues of this game is genre and lack of info. Sym RPGs are mostly doomed genre, since playerbase of those are highly binded to certain game franchise. Also to add, it was quite easy to check spider-man revenue and budget costs, however, i couldn't find literally any sort of info about revenue and budget cost of abovementioned game lmao. So yea, if we take reviews about this game (including steam ratings) this game might be good, yet i doubt it success (also the fact, that series will not be continue, as well as cancelation of port to switch, are tell me that game was not enough successful)"
},
{
"body": "Midnight Suns was great, but even the publisher has admitted it was a commercial failure 🤷♂️"
},
{
"body": "Great game but sadly it failed miserably"
}
]
},
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Marvel snap - card game, will die in less than year, because of Hearthstone and MTG, just like any other TCC\n\nSpider man series - agreed, already clarified that this game is succeeded because of lack of competitors at the release\n\nGotG - Square Enix themselves claimed that game was unsuccessful and revenue suck\n\nMvC infinite - cringe concept, Capcom themselves claimed that game was HELLA unsuccessful and got terrible revenue even week1\n\nLego games as genre is not that serious in gaming community, still those two are kinda successful, not because of marvel, that's why those are least favored by playerbase, again, not even close to Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, Batman and others. But not that terrible\n\nMarvel Ultimate alliance 3 - a nintendo exclusive game. You could stop on that. You, however, can call it as \"success, BUT for nintendo\". Compared to other platforms, switch isn't able to compete (on same level, nintendoboys are pretend that this is equal level, i'd doubt 1.6 mil copies is success, althru for nintendo it's probably are, those are prefer to overprice their products, still, even on nintendo, it's only their t65 game), basically, it can be called as particular success, yet according to player reviews, it's not even in top10 of marvel games."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I am not a Marvel fan so idc. But it's nice for those who like the Marvel franchise."
},
{
"body": "Jeez reddit really is braindead"
},
{
"body": "honestly it looks great and I'll give it a spin. getting rid of 6s was a mistake for OW anyway"
}
]
}