{
"post": {
"title": "Could Marvel Rivals be competition to OW?",
"selftext": "Marvel Rivals just had its first alpha stage, and the game actually looks better than I expected. Lot of overwatch players are playing it too, I miss 6v6 and playing goats or 2 tanks would be so fun. I honestly look forward to this game succeeding in the future. \n\nJust wanna see other peoples thoughts on the game right now judging off the footage, and if someone got access to it.",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/1crgh07/could_marvel_rivals_be_competition_to_ow/"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "Nothing should matter until we actually get to play it"
},
{
"body": "It's a NetEase game. It will have all the slimy, shitty monetization practices everyone *thinks* Overwatch has and more.\n\nThey're off to a strong start with that illegal \"no disparaging remarks\" kerfuffle.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Good thing they announced all heroes are free on release"
},
{
"body": "Cope"
},
{
"body": "Evidence!? They’ve never made a pc game before. Only mobile games for the Chinese market.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They made naraka bladepoint "
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "am i supposed to be hyped for a game that tries to censor media coverage even during its own alpha?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I remind you that blizzard has always done this, they were even negotiating the purchase of several websites so that they would publish positive things about them and attack their competition's games [https://www.polygon.com/22891169/activision-blizzard-bobby-kotick-buy-kotaku-pc-gamer](https://www.polygon.com/22891169/activision-blizzard-bobby-kotick-buy-kotaku-pc-gamer)"
},
{
"body": "Stop crying buddy."
},
{
"body": "The ultimate Blizzard shiller 💀💀 dont suck it all man"
},
{
"body": "Cope"
},
{
"body": "That’s not what happened. Where do you get your news. The language was aggressive. It’s being changed. Jesus. It was standard anyway when bad faith actors are gonna try tear it down because they like Overwatch."
}
]
},
{
"body": "I don't see how it won't run into the same queue time problems as OW1, unless they significantly alter matchmaking or some other feature.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Queue times became a problem with role queue, this game is open queue, so it shouldnt be a problem",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ah, that's good to know. I didn't look too deep into the game because I want to go in blind. Now the question is: how will they balance the game so it doesn't run into the same issues that required OW to implement role queue?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Just don’t make brig 😭"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I am not confident their netcode will be good enough, I also don't like the gaming journalists comparing apples to oranges. \n\nThere is definitely similarities with their menu UI design which is ripped off from the Microsoft mobile tile design.\n\nEither way I'm not interested in the slightest and think it will be just like suicide squad"
},
{
"body": "It remains to be seen but it could absolutely be competition to OW. The Marvel IP is really strong even if the movies have been way less popular recently. That wasn’t enough to save the Avengers game but this could be different since it’s PvP.\n\nTo me it seems like it’s less polished for sure, is more of an OW/Smite hybrid than a true OW clone."
},
{
"body": "I think it looks and feels cheap but to each their own"
},
{
"body": "As someone who's played it in its current state it does basically nothing better than overwatch",
"replies": [
{
"body": "So a brand new game in alpha isn’t better than an eight year old game. Cool. It’s only as good and looks better out the box.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "What? When a new game comes out to you compare it to games made 8 years ago. It's no different here. Considering the post was comparing Rivals with Overwatch it is completely fair to compare it to current day overwatch. Marvel Rivals isn't competing with the overwatch 8 years ago it's competing with Overwatch today so fair game."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Maybe? Anything is possible. At this point in time, there's really not much to go off of."
},
{
"body": "Doubt it but would hope so. Competition would make OW better"
},
{
"body": "Saw Emongg play it today hard pass for me looks more like a mobile game than a PC game to top it off its published by NetEase no thanks. It looks fun for what it is but hardly a competitor and not something i'm interested in for a shooter.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "We will be waiting for you."
}
]
},
{
"body": "I like Marvel but Overwatch has a history of killing its competitors. I would like both games to do well and grow though",
"replies": [
{
"body": "When they had power. When they had respect. When they were loved.\n\nBlizzard couldn’t kill shit anymore.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I agree Overwatch has lost its way big time. We will see though"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Wich game Blizzard killed with Overwatch ? Theres nothing similar since TF2.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Lawbreakers, Gigantic(but that one is back),Paragon, Quake champions , and Battleborn. I will say if Lawbreakers was made now I think it would fair well due to overwatch’s mishaps.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Paragon was a MOBA in 3rd Person...."
},
{
"body": "Paragon was not a game like overwatch. It was a third person MOBA comparable to Smite for example. But definitely not overwatch and they didn’t kill it. The devs killed it because EPIC games made Fortnite and realized what a huge money cow it is. \n\nI remember distinctly them telling the Paragon player base in the forums that there were rumors that they were going to drop Paragon in favor of Fortnite and they denied denied denied until they announced it was shutting down and then had to refund everyone for everything."
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I hope that it’s a fun alternative."
},
{
"body": "How can Rivals be competition to OW when it's only on one platform?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It’s an alpha….you only work on of during alphas and betas due to the price of sending a patch online…..",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Sure, but not even announcing it for other consoles is weird",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's gonna be on consoles",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Did they officially announce it yet?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yes"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "It looks good. I'm looking forward to playing it. I hope ow adds more heroes frequently instead of 2 per year :)"
},
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},
{
"body": "You will need to buy heroes in the game, they wont be available for free. Someone find it in client."
},
{
"body": "You miss playing goats... Yeah nothing you say can be taken seriously"
},
{
"body": "I'm just tired of people always pointing out each skill separately and saying that that skill was stolen from some OW character, despite being generic skills, and that OW wasn't even the first to put all those skills into action. the same kit.\n\nIn fact, there are a lot of OW characters that are clearly based on characters from other games but no one ever criticizes OW for that."
},
{
"body": "Hopefully"
}
]
}