{
"post": {
"title": "I don’t think I’ve enjoyed a multiplayer game this much since OG Overwatch.",
"selftext": "",
"url": "https://i.redd.it/ey0ucqiwxggd1.jpeg"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "This was me! Gonna be a sad few months ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "MONTHS?!??",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It’s meant to be releasing next year",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Nooooooooo",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah very sad the game feels way more completed than multiversus lmao feels polished",
"replies": [
{
"body": "If i compare it to OW, it has a long way to go. But i got to say. Its actually quite decent yes. Its good they still got some time to perfect it."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Good news"
}
]
},
{
"body": "People keep saying this but where did they day this?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I second this question.\n\nKeep seeing it but haven’t seen anyone show where."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Lol"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Im new but after this beta have they announced another?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "hopefully open beta is the next phase before they release the game",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah I could see this game rolling with an open beta for an extended period."
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Its like being reminded of what genuine fun feels like. I don’t know if I’m going back to multiversus even after the beta is over.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They build multiplayer games nowadays where there is no fun in the gameplay just unlocks or \"progression\".\n\n\nFor me, this game is fun gameplay wise and levelling up a battle pass is a bonus that I actually want!"
},
{
"body": "I know right? I've been having an amazing time"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I actually alternate between Multiversus and Rivals :)"
},
{
"body": "I love how unique and whacky some of the characters are. Scarlet Witch feels like a more fun Moira from OW if she was DPS. Also it feels so good landing a full team ult."
},
{
"body": "God, I’m going to miss this game. The multiversus community is a fucking dumpster fire right now constant bickering about why there main is bottom tier and any character they lose to needs to be removed immediately. I really hope this game gets an open beta or something so I can keep playing it."
},
{
"body": "Completely agree with both the post and meme attached this game is in my rotation as soon as it comes out permanently in place of overwatch cause ow2 is a dumpster fire I refuse to play now"
},
{
"body": "Imagine if DC decides to pull up with something like that in the future\n\nNow ***THAT*** is a game, not fandom obviously rivarly i would love to see",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Dont give rocksteady ideas lol"
},
{
"body": "I would love to see Joker and my favorite hero Static."
},
{
"body": "I vaguely recall a really shit Moba with DC heroes and villains. Would like to see a Rivals style game tho.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Infinite Crisis was far from shit. It like most games suffered from poor management. The game itself was incredibly fun.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I wouldn’t say incredibly but it was fun. I’d actually love if they revived it and rebuilt it. We don’t have nearly enough quality DC/Marvel games."
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I feel like Rivals and Multiversus are so different that there's room for both in your catalog."
},
{
"body": "This was also me bro"
},
{
"body": "Same, Overwatch is preety much done when this free to play game drops. Only thing overwatch has up its shelves now is 6vs6 and it's too late for that now.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "OWplayer counts havent changed with the beta. Its a very healthy game still. Rivals had a fee days of novelty on Twitch and then its down below OW again despite having a toruney running today and OW having 0 events. It wont be a significant hit to the game.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Its a beta? Not all overwatch players would have had chance to play the game. This could change when they get access.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "i feel you hate ow and are putting rivals in this ow killer pedestal solely out of spite, not because you like the game. \n\nrivals has a lot of issues, role queue being a must is one of them",
"replies": [
{
"body": "People did the same thing and announced xdefiant as the cod killer. Both games are different enough to have different player bases and happily coexist. Even if they’re technically competing in the same genre."
},
{
"body": "the game doesn’t need a 2-2-2 role lock. maybe something that allows for some sort of flex pick to ensure you always have at least 1 of each role, or no more than 3 of one role, but making you lock into a role is just going to lead to 5+ minute queue times for duelists. it’s what happened to overwatch pre 5v5. i hate getting 4 dps as much as the next guy but we need something in between because i don’t want to wait 15 minutes to play black panther."
},
{
"body": "Lol, i bought overwatch 1 day 1 and have 2000 hours on it. I hate role queue i mean what the hell is that gonna do except have longer waiting time and force players to play certain ways. Its exctly why i loved overwatch 1 casual chill fun game and competitive was separate. Every game now has to be competitive ready perfectly balnced game. Get the hell out of here and give me modern warfare 2 unbalnced op multiplayer fun!",
"replies": [
{
"body": "\"what's role queue going to do?\" \n\nBad take. Overwatch has both open queue and role queue. It's going to alleviate the issue of imbalanced teams that so many people have had.\n\nMW2? The game dominated by UMPs and ACRs, you mean? I know some people like yourself like to pretend that people used absolutely anything in MW2, but there were loads of people who only used meta weapons."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Which is why the fact that people have already lost interest on twitch matters as well. OW still plays much better. Rivals has to be significantly better that OW to have a chance, and its not even really slightly better. \n\nRivals and Overwatch is going to be the same relationship as XDfefiant and Call of Duty. \n\"Haha cool, similar game with with a gimmick of bringing back removed features of the older one but without a mass market staying power\"",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Only difference being Marvel is more popular then overwatch.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I think Rivals will do very well and I'm keen, but this has been proven to not be that much of a deciding factor in a game's success. People don't just jump into anything just because it has superheroes. Suicide Squad and Midnight Suns weren't that attractive to people. I assure you people will always say \"this genre/subgenre might not appeal to most, but this time it has superheroes!\" Even Injustice was good, but still niche. Multiversus for another example too.\n\nThe genre or subgenre is a far more important deciding factor. Yes, it's a shooter and they appeal to a large group, but it's a hero shooter and your average person will probably get their shit rocked in a game like Overwatch or Rivals when they think they can just walk around randomly shooting.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I feel the same, I feel Marvel will do well honestly better than the other same genre that are coming out. Overwatch won't die but it certainly will have some competition with RIVALS, overwatch had time to improve and fix things around. Marvel needs time but I'm sure it'll have it's consistent follow. My friends , and girlfriend are all happy with MARVEL rivals and planning to switch over to it when it releases."
}
]
},
{
"body": "The buy in to play the game is going to dramatically change that. \nNot a lot of people are going to play this type of game. Rivals is releasimg fast paced and with lots of visual clutter. Ow started very slow and has ramped up its speed and clutter. Very few people in the general population are going to want to invest time into a game so overwhelming, and the only ones really used to it are already deeply enfranchised OW players."
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Where do you grab the player counts for OW? As far as I know, Blizzard never releases those.\n\nOr are you only looking at Steam numbers?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Steam is still showing positive, and since they are reasonably the least invested players (not a lot of players are going to migrate accounts) they are the most likely to leave for a new game. \nAnd like i said, twitch doesnt show a meaningful decrease in interest from viewers either. There was a \"this is new\" moment then a \" its not good enough to change what i play\" moment. \nRivals arguably isnt a better game in a lot of aspects and it has to be significantly better to make players want to switch at this point. I like Rivals, and likely will play a bit of both, but saying that rivals is going to kill OW or that its going to meaningfully impact OW really at all is wishful at best in my opinion.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I was just asking where you got the player numbers lol",
"replies": [
{
"body": "steamcharts most likely"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Overwatch feels lifeless",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's literally a different game then overwatch 1 and was made on unfinished engine with all things just toss around to make dumpster fire that is overwatch 2. Maps, lighting, sound design, smoothness(NetCode), polish etc.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Overwatch is a technical marvel, especially compared to this game which can’t maintain 160fps on the literal best possible PC at 1080p. Make no mistake, Overwatch is incredibly well polished, and has excellent optimization, QOL, etc..\n\nLiterally everyone aside from the balance team is excellent at their job. Unfortunately those few people are so incompetent that what should be a solid game is genuinely unplayable.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Performance isn’t really a fair complaint rn the game is in a beta and considering most of the game is very polished it’s obvious the thing preventing this game from releasing today is the performance\n\nNow if the game releases in this state yea that’s a big problem"
}
]
},
{
"body": "OW2 could literally be classified as a balance update to OW1. The biggest changes was just stuff they removed from the game like the 6th teammate, or the various maps they pulled then they added a MTX store.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah and they scrapped PvE over year before launch and still used it as marketing tool"
}
]
},
{
"body": "They don't really seem to make origin stories anymore ventures adventures told nothing about the character than she likes drilling and artifacts\n\n\nEdit: literally compare ventures origin story to any other character doomfist,sigma,ana etc much more effort used to those and they actually tell who the character was before and how they became who they are now"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "What’s with all this OW killer copium? Rivals is good for sure, but it’s not as good as OW. The gameplay isn’t as tight. It’s third person. It has no custom game modes. It’s Marvel so the monetization will be even more egregious than OW. \n\nIn the end both games are good. They can easily coexist. I don’t think people who are super into OW will swap."
},
{
"body": "I really don’t think so, Overwatch is doing fine. I think this game will be a good competitor when it releases more polished. Marvel Rivals unlike some other clones has very fun characters and they have a great IP to fully use. I honestly like the unique healers in this game, I am a support main in Overwatch. I would also really like to see Deadpool if that’s possible.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "You are forgetting the novalty of something new that might blow up and current overwatch players just getting sick of blizzard. Only reason people keep saying overwatch will be fine is because marvel rivals hasn't officially launched and is in limited closed beta. Once everyone gets access to this free game it will be interesting to see overwatch players moving on.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I really am not. I don’t think this game is just going to make everyone switch and forget about Overwatch that’s a bit naive. They will both exist and Overwatch players will play both. Emongg himself said he will be playing both. It really feels like you are burned out on Overwatch and are wishing for its failure. Both games are good and both games will have characters that people will get on the game to play.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Overwatch 2 is pathetic sequel"
},
{
"body": "I am not burned out on overwatch, to this day if you give me overwatch 1 i would play it right now and play both when marvel rivals releases as i want a first person hero shooter. I was just playing overwatch 2 until now because nothing remotely came close to it as a hero shooter until now. Overwatch 2 just sucks for me in all departments and is a downgrade except for resolution."
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Yeahhhh OW is dead bro. It needs to count its days",
"replies": [
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Huh? I didn’t mean to imply you did. Me saying OW is dead is more my opinion/prediction based…\n\nI understand that we can’t tell tone of voice through text but I assure you it wasn’t defense at all dude. It was leaning more like “alright let’s pack it up we’ve seen enough”. I wasn’t attacking you or your post homie 😕",
"replies": [
{
"body": "My bad. I totally misread that.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "All good dude, glad this ended up being a positive interaction. Need more of this on Reddit and the internet period. I appreciate the apology"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I can’t believe that the betas ending so soon, I’m gonna have to start going outside again ugh"
},
{
"body": "Literally bro"
},
{
"body": "FACTS"
},
{
"body": "I have 100 hours played and its just the Closed Beta. Its so addicting and fun and the fact that it has all of my favorite characters and more coming is a plus"
},
{
"body": "Same I will be so sad when it gone"
},
{
"body": "Couldn't have said it better myself! I am dying to know the release date and I really hope they do not go radio silent after the beta!"
},
{
"body": "I’m really really sad the game isn’t fully out. This is a free to play game I will happily give money to from time to time"
},
{
"body": "I still like both."
},
{
"body": "Then you haven't played that many multiplayer games."
},
{
"body": "Even when im losing im still having fun"
},
{
"body": "As someone who plays both games\n\nI genuinely agree with this meme, Multiversus is fun don't get me wrong i really like the game, but it is in a rough spot rn, and Marvel Rivals is FUN and i'm having less issues with it than with Multiversus"
},
{
"body": "Multiversus was doomed to fail. Fighting games are among the few titles where the paid version always remains king."
},
{
"body": "I love multiversus & marvel rivals"
},
{
"body": "Shame that we don’t currently have a release date despite the game being very polished already. I have had a few frame issues when large buildings are destroyed but overall a way better experience than MVS which has released broken twice"
},
{
"body": "The only thing that is bad with game is optimization if they fix that i swear to god this will be the best moba game in years FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX THE GOD DAMN OPTIMIZATION"
},
{
"body": ""
},
{
"body": "I dropped multiversus so hard after completing the season 1 battle pass lol im over that stupid grind"
},
{
"body": "Do OW really players like this game a lot? I am one and for me this game is mediocre at best. \nMost characters are super plain and bland gameplay wise, not that much skill expression. Feels much closer to Paladins than Overwatch in terms of gameplay and quality.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I enjoy and play both, my favorite characters on this game are: Jeff, Thor, Loki, Namor so far."
},
{
"body": "Personally, as an old OW1 player I found it a breath of fresh air. I've had so much fun playing it and it feels better knowing ANNDD learning some character story background for some of the characters. I've played Paladins and CONCORD as well, I honestly like Paladins, it's pretty fun from time to time...CONCORD needs some serious rework, I felt it has potential but needs to change some things...the characters feel lifeless. OW is still a fun game but honestly just sick and tired of the way Blizz treats it's fan. I'm switching to RIVALS because it's fun, colorful, lively characters (could use more voice lines for everyone tbh) and just plain out fun for me."
},
{
"body": "I for me overwatch is shittier at best"
},
{
"body": "I havnt had \"fun\" in OW2 (unless I'm playing Hammond) for ages.\n\nAlso compared to OW chars these are way more interesting mechanically and bombastic."
},
{
"body": "I think you’re right that it’s closer to paladins but I think that’s why OW players are also finding this game fresher. I however don’t think this game is bad, I think it still needs to be optimized for performance but the gameplay is pretty fun all around."
},
{
"body": "Overwatch is significantly worse"
}
]
}
]
}