{
"post": {
"title": "Path of Exile 2 Early Access coming in Late 2024",
"selftext": "",
"url": "https://i.redd.it/yojpzg514n3d1.png"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "I'll hold my breath this time. I promise!",
"replies": [
{
"body": "As your doctor I would not advise this",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Maybe if you were my Apothecary we could talk. Nobody wants advice from a has-been low value card.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Hey you're not what you once were either!"
}
]
},
{
"body": "witch doc and too many quacks"
},
{
"body": "At least prescribe me 100mg of Copium daily that next league will be good and in a month, maybe throw in some extra so I can believe in end of league events."
},
{
"body": "You might be a doctor but are you a physician?"
},
{
"body": "As your attorney i suggest you take a hit from the little Silver flask in my Druggery"
}
]
},
{
"body": "“Soon”"
},
{
"body": "lol no shit - boy who cried wolf vibes"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Late Access Early 2025",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It nearby.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "dunno about nearby. In our presence more likely"
},
{
"body": "More nearby recently."
}
]
},
{
"body": "5-31-2025 still early in the year I guess"
},
{
"body": "Still sane, exile 😵💫"
},
{
"body": "It's literally just 3 days away"
}
]
},
{
"body": "marketing told them \"early access\" gaming is the meta lol",
"replies": [
{
"body": "A player told them, at the last LA meetup"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Is that another name for beta? Or is beta happening before?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "According to Jonathan it's just something that GGG's marketing department decided to do, by calling it \"early access\" instead of \"beta\", but in practical terms it's the exact same thing. A bit nonsensical, to be honest.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Early Access implies progression will carry over to the full release at least and isn't going to be a short, temporary test but a permanent one. Which, granted, beta doesn't rule that out (especially in a game with seasons like in PoE) but I can see why they might go for that term over beta.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Jonathan said that there will probably be wipes during the beta, but when the release comes they're trying to preserve the beta characters in a separate beta-only standard league.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "beta only league? is that where we put shield charge?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Doesn't flame surge go in there as well",
"replies": [
{
"body": "nah that's used in literally any ignite build for free DPS from the burning ground. The dps is 25% of the ignite dps"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Not necessarily. BG3 progress did not carry over from early access. All saves were wiped. I would not be surprised if marketing teams are looking at how they handled early access. \n\nLast Epoch allowed you to still play early access characters, but only on a realm equivalent to standard. \n\nBoth of those games were in early access for a long ass time too. \n\nIf I had to guess, the model will probably more closely follow bg3 than last epoch. As in you'll be able to play the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the game as much as you want, then progress will be wiped before launch."
},
{
"body": "> Early Access implies progression will carry over to the full release at least\n\nLOL. I'll believe that when I actually see it...",
"replies": [
{
"body": "How does progression carry over matter? There is a whipe every three months. Some people here seem to not understand what Poe is?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Standard is a thing. I know it's not very popular but your characters don't actually get wiped.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "atleast it was like that the last few years, now they change gems/ tree/ game mechanics and the old chars are similar to a wipe (still there but non functional)"
},
{
"body": "It probably will be a little more popular tbh"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I more than understand what Poe is, and that understanding is precisely why I find the faith that wipes or resets are not to be expected so fucking laughable.\n\n\nNot sure how you could ever interpret my post as a cry that progression carry over matters to me. Personally I could not care less about, and actually enjoy the wipes and resets....."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Good old full wipes in the early PoE days"
},
{
"body": "Jonathan mentioned in one or more of the many interviews he did a couple months ago that PoE2's beta would likely last 6+ months."
},
{
"body": "I mean considering poe has a league system you 100% will start with a fresh season on launch. Maybe they will keep stuff for standard but I doubt it"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I don't think it's nonsensical for marketing purposes. \n\nIf you look at the average Joe. \"Beta\" sounds a lot more like \"still not finished in some weird testing phase\" \nWhile \"Early Access\" sounds like a (nearly) finished product that you may access earlier.\n\nEven if functionally they are the same"
},
{
"body": "Something tells me that EA and beta launch will be different things, with one hopefully coming this year and the other... sometimes in 2025..."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Jonathan said in one of the interviews they just changed the name because the marketing team asked to. But early access and beta, in the context of poe2, is exactly the same thing",
"replies": [
{
"body": "> Jonathan said in one of the interviews they just changed the name because the marketing team asked to.\n\nLikely because \"beta\" has a bit of a negative connotation (it'll be buggy or missing significant features). \"Early access/release\" sounds a bit better, like you're getting access to a finished game early.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's also because they're giving us a full vertical slice. The whole game with all systems. \n\nUnlike other games (such as D4) where their betas were more restricted to only certain segments of content"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Bingo, I had to ask him that!"
},
{
"body": "In modern marketing terms early access is exactly what PoE's original open beta was.\n\nBut if they do a full wipe, instead of a \"your characters are preserved\" league reset, then that will have ended up just being a glorified beta test lol"
}
]
},
{
"body": "This is the beta. Though there is an invite only closed alpha that is happening relatively soon."
},
{
"body": "it's consistent with the latest communication ggg made about a likely beta start time so yeah i'd say so. maybe the word \"beta\" just didn't look good to them in a big promo like this so they call it early access instead (and considering Johnathan stated that they really want basically the entire game available during the \"beta\" for proper test feedback, i'd say its a fair label)"
},
{
"body": "Its basically a beta."
},
{
"body": "I was just watching the new console demo video while reading this comment and mark said \"beta at the end of the year\" so yeah, its probably the same thing"
},
{
"body": "“Early Access” means the same as beta in this case and is used to not alienate players who identify as alphas."
},
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "nah for most indie games it still means release unfinished game years before completion is anywhere near so you can fund development",
"replies": [
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "You claimed that in modern gaming \"early access\" always means one thing, I provided an example of that not being true."
}
]
},
{
"body": "what do you meam indie games ? PoE is not indie game for years now. GGG is owned by Tencent",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Whether poe is an indie is irrelevant, I never called it an indie. Im pointing out that early access in modern gaming doesnt have only one meaning, and that there's a vast amount of games using it as a way to \"solve\" backloaded uncertain profits that games suffer from.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Then why you wrote indie ? You act like poe 2 need some more founding or something.\n\nNo.\n\nThey got money...\n\nThey dont need do early release.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Please read what I wrote. The discussion is not about poe specifically. The statement was that \"early access\" means overpay for 3 days early and how that is the standard. I am saying that is not the standard and that there's plenty of games that use early access as a way to fund development for years before the actual release. I am not acting like poe2 needs funding, I never said that, I never called it an indie game.\n\nIt was specifically said by GGG that that the reason it says early access and not beta is because the marketing team thought it sounded better, so the whole discussion is not providing value anyhow."
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "In poe its play for as long as its needed for launch then everything gets wiped and is launched with no downtime kinda like a league launch. Just a few hours downtime."
}
]
},
{
"body": "probably the alpha version since regular league releases are beta versions if you look at the bugs and balance issues."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Nearby access 2024"
},
{
"body": "I'm betting on 2025"
},
{
"body": "This will change once Jonathan discovers VR controls and wants it in POE 2."
},
{
"body": "31.12.2024 it is then...................",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Classic WC3 Reforged marketing"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I wonder if we'll finally be able to seamlessly swap between Controller and Keyboard/Mouse on PC when PoE2 releases.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "PLEASE!!!!! I want to control gameplay with controller and manage inventory with mouse."
}
]
},
{
"body": "So it is early or late? I’m confused",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It is obviously \"nearby\" access"
},
{
"body": "It’s obviously Recently Access",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Recently is clearly defined as the past 4 seconds. I don't know why they can't say the past 4 seconds, but unlike nearby it doesn't have several definitions."
}
]
},
{
"body": "It arrives right when it means to."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Funny how Chris said back then that they were planning to release PoE2 before D4. Yet, by the looks of it, D4 is going to have it's first expansion before PoE2 is even released. I wonder if something in the development went completely wrong for them to miss their release schedule by multiple years.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "D4 released, died and was reborn before PoE 2 beta."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Early access is actually the correct term to use here. This is more the Steam early access term not the 5 days before console early access that some console players might think of.\n\nThis early access will grant access to PC and console at the same time. It will run from the moment it launches until the normal launch. (Beta's usually have a downtime between the beta and launch) Feedback given during the early access will be used to improve the game and patches during early access will introduce new content.\n\nThey changed the name from beta to early access because of a suggestion by the marketing team, functionally this is the beta, there is no additional beta before this other than really secret non-public access betas that are under NDA.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Was there info on whether they are going to wipe after early access?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They said assume that they don't have a plan but that if it's not too difficult they will let us have a 'legacy standard' where EA players can log-in to check their character.\n\nEA characters will not go to regular standard when the game goes live."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "So its my turn to play the copium monster. It only says early access for ps5.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "He said in the Video its both PC and PS5"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Is it going to be public?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "closed then public most likely"
},
{
"body": "It certainly is going to, you bought supporter pack x and get a key. If those packs are dope (personal preference ofc) I will most likely drop 60 bucks, but not 90."
}
]
},
{
"body": "It's never happening. My friend has bullied me into an unbeliever."
},
{
"body": "Ps5 only or pc aswell?"
},
{
"body": "Early Access Late.\n\n\nMmmmh....."
},
{
"body": "*the value of 2024 may vary."
},
{
"body": "Final Access, after WWIV"
},
{
"body": "LOGIN"
},
{
"body": "Ps exclusive or will it be on xbox too",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Xbox series as well"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Fully release late 202x hehe"
},
{
"body": "Only on ps5?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "No it's PC as well. This screenshot is just from the Sony State of Play so they made that trailer super PS5 focused.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yay do we know if everyone can play or only a select few?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I don't think they've revealed any details on that quite yet. I'm sure as we get closer and they have an actual date in mind they'll tell us more.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ooh okay, thank you for the info, I'm forever grateful!"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "🫢"
},
{
"body": "Full game gonna release along side gta 6 at this point lol"
},
{
"body": "Any word on PoE2 for pc?"
},
{
"body": "Will they optimize this time? Will they shot down poe 1? Will poe 2 be available at ps4?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Only PS5 and Xbox Series.\n\nPoE 1 will continue to get new leagues.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "FUCK! For the first thing. \n\nAWSOME! For the second"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Fuck ya!"
},
{
"body": "Is this early access or closed beta? I've been seeing them used interchangeably, which they definitely are not.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "'Early access' has been used in the PC ecosystem for a decade to describe a game in a prerelease state. Steam EA has been a thing for a long time. It's not a \"5 days of EA,\" thing.\n\nI think it's a mistake to use \"early access,\" because as you bring up, it can mean multiple different things.\n\nPoE 2's \"early access\" is a beta, and will last multiple months.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Thanks for the info! Is that specific to PS5 or does that apply to PC as well. I haven't been excited for a game since dragon age inquisition (which let me down). I'm so fuckin stoked to play this",
"replies": [
{
"body": "GGG is saying the \"beta/early access\" will be simultaneous on PC and Playstation, I'm not sure about Xbox.\n\nHistorically, players had to buy a supporter pack to get guaranteed day 1 access to betas, so the early access may not be free, initially at least. They may open it up later, but I'm not sure if they've talked about the details yet.\n\nObviously, the 1.0 full release will be free for everyone.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Thanks again. Been looking for the info but never want to read the 3 page stories these sites write when people are looking for one to three sentences with a clear answer. Preciate ya"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Historical anecdote.\n\nBeta testing has been around forever essentially, alpha, then beta, then release. With PC gaming it started in the 90s when they allowed players to test in advance. WoW was on of the first massive beta, but many games before that."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Is couch coop going to be available during early access?"
},
{
"body": "no PC, just PS5? :( maybe performance will be better at least",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's PC and console. They only mention PS5 in the trailer because it was for a Sony event.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "oh, k thx"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I'd better had late access in early 2024"
},
{
"body": "ngl, as a console player i’m suuuuuper hyped up"
},
{
"body": "PS5, noice!"
},
{
"body": "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETA"
},
{
"body": "dont get too excited. Only streamers will get access like always"
},
{
"body": "Yeah doubt it"
},
{
"body": "So December 31?"
},
{
"body": "To polarise a little I can only say that I am hyped 0.00 percent. This game looks like a jump and run and I still don't understand the reason to call it poe2, if poe will be there just like before. It's confusing for many people. Specially people who never played poe. Friends said, they won't start with poe anymore and theyll wait for poe2. Wtf?"
},
{
"body": "+1 to all release date skill gems"
},
{
"body": "The fact that it's coming to ps5 makes me so happy. I've been wanting to build a pc. But if I'm gonna do it, I want to be able to do it right. Which means $$$. And between being the only one working between me and my wife, and our 3 little girls, I just dont feel right spending that kind of money on a pc. But I desperately want to play this game. Them making it available for console is such an incredible move. Super excited"
},
{
"body": "Early Access, Beta... I don't care what it's called, I'm gonna be playing it. Price is not a factor. I'll pay whatever I have to pay to get access. Anyone who thinks I'm stupid can think that... I know I'm gonna get my money's worth. I've been playing POE and I have been keeping up with everything POE2. The game is going to be absolutely amazing. I have a nice little account that I set up on the side. Every time I buy something or pay a bill, the total gets rounded up and the difference gets tossed into it. I set it up on the day that POE2 was announced. That little account is no longer little. I have more than enough to get whatever it is I need to get that will give me access to the beta. I'm ready to pull the trigger the moment the beta goes live. When that happens I'm gonna take a vacation and disappear!"
},
{
"body": "Early Access, Beta... I don't care what it's called, I'm gonna be playing it. Price is not a factor. I'll pay whatever I have to pay to get access. Anyone who thinks I'm stupid can think that... I know I'm gonna get my money's worth. I've been playing POE and I have been keeping up with everything POE2. The game is going to be absolutely amazing. I have a nice little account that I set up on the side. Every time I buy something or pay a bill, the total gets rounded up and the difference gets tossed into it. I set it up on the day that POE2 was announced. That little account is no longer little. I have more than enough to get whatever it is I need to get that will give me access to the beta. I'm ready to pull the trigger the moment the beta goes live. When that happens I'm gonna take a vacation and disappear!"
},
{
"body": "This game lost my interest, i hate when they give info about the game and looks cool with the graphics they got but they keep delaying the release and after years the graphics will look like mario, so in my opiniont this is disrespectul to the community of poe and i know for sure I will not install this game when they release it. GG team you did a no job and convinced me this game does not deserve my time invested, I am pretty sure there are more ppl thinking the same",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Imagine making a new account to post that"
}
]
},
{
"body": "If it doesn’t get delayed which seems to be the new theme"
},
{
"body": "cant wait... this will finally replace d2 for me"
},
{
"body": "Early Access!?? Why!!?? Ugh… 😮💨"
},
{
"body": "Diablo 4 ad here is pure comedy."
},
{
"body": "It's been releasing ''soon'' for 2 years now. Just stop talking shit, and let us know WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO."
},
{
"body": "It’s been kinda funny observing the hype for this die down every time GGG showcased it lmao.Who even cares at this point?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Me"
}
]
},
{
"body": "They'd better not do \"pay $xxx\" for x days early access\"",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Keep in mind \"early access\" will be multiple months for PoE2. This isn't \"play the game 5 days early\" kind of early access.\n\nIn that sense, I think they're making it a mistake calling it EA instead of sticking with \"beta.\" EA has a certain expected meaning with the console crowd.\n\nIt's a beta. I suspect they'll do the same thing they did with 3.0 where most people needed to buy a supporter pack to get guaranteed access."
},
{
"body": "and why not",
"replies": [
{
"body": "well $999 for 9 days of early access would be pretty excessive ;P"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Stop paying for early access and they’ll stop doing it."
}
]
},
{
"body": "beta delayed for consoles , I already hate it"
},
{
"body": "They just want the game as cool as Silksong 😎"
},
{
"body": "Don't tell me that PS5 is getting the first early access..",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It's not. This is the first announcement of PoE2 beta for console. The PC beta has been known for (arguably) 5 years now."
},
{
"body": "Well the marketing department is calling all the shots soo....."
}
]
},
{
"body": "How to English, yes perhaps."
},
{
"body": "[removed]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Like how that is even a thing ? How is that relevant?"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I bet my life we are not playing poe this year",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I remind you when you become my slave lol"
}
]
},
{
"body": "PS5, crossplay. Well it is Helldiver's 2 time again... read the TOS and think abou it. Pay close attention to 6.2 the User Generated Content: [https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/psn-terms-of-service/](https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/psn-terms-of-service/)",
"replies": [
{
"body": "one is Sony's owned published title and the other is GGG lol"
},
{
"body": "That has no relevance at all. If you want to play on PlayStation of course you need an account you need one to play online on the console just because it's crossplay you don't though the game has nothing to do with Sony. Stop inventing outrage.\n\nD4 has been crossplay and cross save with PlayStation this whole time without the need for a PlayStation account to play on anything other than PlayStation."
}
]
}
]
}