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"post": {
"title": "F2P story problems",
"selftext": "ok so ive played for a few days and got some dudes at lvl 50, the material cost to upgrade them further is INSANE. got lucky and pulled a legendary today from an orange dice ( skeleton support lady ) who helped me beat the green dragon boss. While my team were all 50 the boss was 62 i think?\n\nok whatever. i come back to story, and the first monster i need to kill is FUCKING LEVEL 115 even when weakened with all 4 orbs i cant kill him. so to those who have made it i ask - how? and how is this fair. \n\ni cant progress the story so basically i can spend all my red shards in shop for bread and grind the fire lady boss? and i think i can only kill her at first stage since most of my guys are fire or poison. thats all i can do until reset?\n\nedit - https://ibb.co/whKFpsN here are my guys. if i can make something decent out of this, tips would be more than appreciated.\n\nedit2 - thanks to all the good people who responded and helped i was able to down ooze on my second try. i can now also do level 2 domains with no problems so getting the gems is no issue. all is well that ends well :)",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonheir_SilentGods/comments/1898l8s/f2p_story_problems/"
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"comments": [
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"body": "> how is this fair \n\nIts fair because you are getting into content that you can't auto with any team. Look at its attacks, buffs, and debuffs to work around those.",
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"body": "what i mean is, shouldnt i be fighting my level opponents? since i have hit the wall where all my guys cant get past level 50\n\neven the green dragon was 12 levels above me and now the tentacle monster is 115. am i supposed to be around 100 at that point already?",
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"body": "The levels don't matter that much. The max hero level is 100 and at the end you're fighting level 270 monsters. The green ooze is hard, it's common to struggle with it. You can farm for ice crystals with your fire/ poison team, switch your main character to ice, and upgrade it past 50 that way.",
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"body": "Also it's fine to use fire/poison heroes in the fire domain on level 2. It's level 3 where it gets really hard"
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"body": "Its one of the big bosses you will encounter in the game. After this they go back to your level in the 50-70 range. No you shouldn't be at 100 by this point."
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"body": "Sadly, this game is very grindy. You will be spending a lot of your time in the goblin lair, grinding for XP potions to level up your characters. Then grinding again to get the leveling crystals at certain level hurdles. But wait there is more, you will then have to grind in gear dungeons for better gear. Oh, and did I mention is all goes away, and your characters reset to level 1 at the end of the season? No, well you have that to look forward to again. \n\nThis game will lose a lot of the player base soon when that happens.",
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"body": "ye im already doing a lot of goblin lair ( 3 ) i can do it with a lot of time remaining so 1 run gets me 1 small and 4 medium xp potions.\n\ni knew about losing all the stuff and hero resets and i seriously dont mind as long as the story doesnt stay all the same. it probably will tho",
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"body": "game have a rocky progression where things go well, then you face a wall, grind it, then things go well for another long time until you grind it up again.\n\nHOWEVER, with time, by getting stronger, you also become better at beating vortex, at fighting overworld boss, at getting more red crystal and affinity thanks to these higher and higher fights + events (giving you more crystals and summon giving you currency) so you end up with more affinity bonus, more powerful artifact and your power go exponentially better, you'll see, it becomes very cool."
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"body": "I think the issue is how you approach content.\n\nThe typical player should be having at least their first lvl 70 during the days they gather eyes for the ooze monster. The reason why you're blocked is because your team performance seems to be really bad and you're wasting your stamina.\n\n I do see a big problem if you can't beat the elemental domains on any stage above 1 and still try to brute force the star-up by farming that stage 1. Did you look into other heroes to beat the stages? Did you invest time into loooking into how those fights work and your gear?"
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"body": "Level them up bro. Do the side quest there a TONS of material available"
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"body": "At this point you should be trying to level a second team, not fire poison to be able to do the different domains. Then level to 70 and grind better gear. The swamp moster is a 115 before the stones debuff. And it requires some strategy."
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"body": "my friend alot of f2p players have completed the story already. You just havent figured out how to optimize resource use yet. As a f2p i remember the ooze monster being a time based gate to progression as opposed to a difficult boss. \n\n1st thing your doing wrong is buying bread. All marrow to dice and maybe scrolls. \n\n2nd is grinding flame domain more than necessary, go to any other domain with your fire team and use the resource to upgrade your main by switching element\n\nYou are really far behind if you have level 50 heroes when you hit ooze monster. The game is alot more strategy than grind if your f2p",
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"body": "thanks for the tips"
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"body": "For me Ooze was both -- time and difficulty. I tried it after just 2 weakening eyes and lived for about 2 minutes doing maybe 5% damage to it. Two days later, after if was fully weakened, it was the exact same. The only difference was instead of taking it from 60% to 55% I now took it from 20% to 15%. I'm pretty sure all the eyes do is lower the starting health. I finally beat it by cranking Resist and getting some debuff removal. And then I still barely won.\n\nBut yeah, you don't beat this game by cranking up your main team, like so many others. You have to build up a team for many encounters, from which you reuse heroes for other special encounters later. And the ooze is pretty obviously a major boss, since it gets you onto an entirely new continent."
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"body": "I've been playing for a week, you don't HAVE to fight any enemies at that level. Are you selecting to \"challenge\" them? Those are optional and should be backtracked on later. No story missions should be slowing you down that early. I have 0 legendaries since im holding onto all of my orange dice at the moment.\n\nAlso, fire boss is hardest so don't use fire affinity to level up your main character. When you go to level them to the next star level, do it in frost. The levels all stay whether you're in fire, lightning or frost."
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"body": "Why are u wasting red shards on bread, the only thing u have to buy is orange dices",
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"body": "its usually on a discount and since i had over 2k i bought some. thanks now i will know :) i started playing without reading anything beforehand so i sort of wanted to try a bit of everything"
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"body": "https://preview.redd.it/loztr1uf6z3c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e90ccdc6e8a8e802395d8fa5944b2b1615f57b9a\n\nYou are still in a phase where it takes you few potions to level up units (till lv.50-70), so my tip is to invest on the Heroes I marked down, they are really helpful in what you need the most now, dungeons. If you are lucky enough you can pull Voresh or Sigrid from dices to help you out with the grind.\n\nAnyway, you have the basis to assemble either a solid Ice team (Remember you can use your MC as ice hero aswell) with Usha, Gusni, Vinyara, Lethander and Dallbam, either a \"Goblin\" team with Usha, Vinyara, Eli, Dench and Shook (always remember your MC). You could probably assemble a Fire/Poison team aswell since you got Orrus, MC, Eli, Dench and Heksandra, it's a pretty solid team to start with, and the goal should be to insert Sigrid and Frurbath instead of MC and Dench.\n\nAnother advise is to leave Vasska (rare Necro summon Hero) since Summon is kinda crap atm, and you need lot of heroes to make them work.",
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"body": "thank you, i leveled Vaaska just for aesthetics and thought that he MUST get good at some point, right? he never did and i never use him\n\nEli is like my best DPS unit no matter where i go hes always 30+% of damage done i really like him",
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"body": ">he never did and i never use him\n\nI'm crying lol\n\nEli is super nice, don't be afraid to fully scroll him and Usha, they will carry you through early dungeons with no effort"
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"body": "Level up.\n\nYou have to solve the problems you are given.\n\nHorrus, Hexandra, Usha, Irina and Eli are all worth maxing.\n\nUse the ice dungeon to level up the main character."
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"body": "Are you leveling up your artifacts. I seen some newer players who miss this. They help tons.\n\nAs others said you can’t just brute your way through content with dps. Buffs, debuffs matter greatly. \n\nYou need a healer almost always so level up Heksandra. If you want to stay with Fire Poison then, Fire MC, Horrus, Heksandra, Letalis and Eli can work. You really want Sigrid. She will be a game changer so if you haven’t used your rare chest yet, get her. Once you have her replace Eli.\n\nYou just need 3 heroes to have same affinity for now.\n\nIf you want to use your legendary, her, Fire or Frost MC, Usha, Horrus and Heksandra \n\nYou want to make sure you always have tank and healer for most part. Except Goblin.\n\nETA: key to domain is to start with Frost Domain. That’s the easiest so get the frost team leveled up. Then once your frost team is higher level, go to Flame. Key to flame is you have to be spaced at least one tile apart."
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"body": "Your guys shouldn’t be level 50. I haven’t bought anything in the game and don’t have a legendary but my level 70 team steamrolled that lvl 115 ooze."
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