{
"post": {
"title": "Why delta force hawk ops?",
"selftext": "I know this is the bajillionth post on this sub reddit but I don't get the hype behind delta force: hawk ops. I thought one key reason most BF players hated 2042 was because of specialist? But DF also has a specialist system in place just like 2042. Is there something I am missing. Did we forgive specialist? Or is there something in the beta that I don't know of. \n\nBTW I didn't play the game yet.",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1es8gzk/why_delta_force_hawk_ops/"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "Do y’all remember when we had battlefield games that didn’t have stupid supernatural abilities? Why can’t we just go back to a simpler time, where each class had dedicated gadgets, balanced around team play?\n\nToday’s market is dominated by micro transactions. God, I hate it so bad . If you need me, you’ll find me in a hard-core BF4 lobby.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It’s wild how much gaming has moved away from innovating impressive mechanics. Battlefield’s destructive environments were peak multiplayer gaming imo.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "The finals exist, and does destructive environments better. You may not like it. But battlefield isn’t the king of destruction anymore.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "The finals is hot garbage.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "11 days late lil bro. Move along."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": ">It’s wild how much gaming has moved away from innovating impressive mechanics.\n\nThey literally implemented new innovative ways to play battlefield but you boomers who can't cope with change, want battlefield to never change and stick to BF4 like gameplay with scripted destructive enviorements."
}
]
},
{
"body": "The finals is what you’re looking for",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I enjoyed the Finals for a few weeks but I prefer the large scale battles that come with Battlefield that Finals doesn't really scratch the itch of.\n\nLove the movement, destructable environments, and gunplay in The Finals",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Exactly. The Finals is a fun game 100%, but I want to roll my fucking tank through the bottom floor of an apartment and watch the whole thing come crumbling down as infantry begin to run out like little ants. I wanna drop a JDAM on the cap point and watch the whole place get leveled and see how the whole lobby changes how they fight over the point. I wanna watch rocket artillery come streaming in overhead and cover the map in a thick layer of smoke dust and debris blowing holes in the sides of every building in the vicinity. I want the map to look like siege of Shanghai when the game starts, and Verdun by the time it’s over lol",
"replies": [
{
"body": "That was beautiful"
},
{
"body": "I just want Flood Zone back. The levolution there was fun and seriously impacted the flow of the round."
},
{
"body": "what could of been i guess"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Completely fair, I enjoy both for different reason. The finals has the best destructible environment in recent memory, but the large scale battles of battlefield are unmatched."
}
]
},
{
"body": "squash paint many engine vanish rustic cheerful bake drunk market\n\n *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*"
},
{
"body": "You people are weird. Saying The Finals is \"more like Battlefield\" than DFHO, but also for playing \"The Finals\"."
},
{
"body": "Made by OG devs of battlefield yeah… exactly"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "This is my biggest gripe with modern shooters. I'm so sick of heroes, both from a gameplay aspect and aesthetic aspect. Just let us make our own faceless cog in the machine soldier that we can immerse ourselves in",
"replies": [
{
"body": ">Just let us make our own faceless cog in the machine soldier that we can immerse ourselves in\n\nso you can related to them right?"
},
{
"body": "One of the biggest CONS for me with this game is the operator special skills. \n\nI do not feel like learning what the Operators (Specialists) can do. I already played a shit load of 2042 which I did like ..specialist and all. But Hawk Ops feels like what it is ...a game that I played before..years ago!",
"replies": [
{
"body": "thats the biggest barrier for me to picking up r6. i played it at launch and it was fun, but everytime i think about going back i see 8000 operators and their skills i have to learn."
},
{
"body": "I hate learning about what smoke grenades can do!"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "This is 💯 bang on. Nobody that has enjoyed the bf games asked for a fucking batman flying around as a playable character or a person using a grappling hook zipping around like Spiderman. Give us our 4 classes and good maps and the majority of the community would have loved the game.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Just to be clear, we got grappling hooks and ziplines in bf2, those where cool, heroes needs to go.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I'm ok with the stationary grappling hooks but not a fan of being able to use it everywhere and be like Spiderman."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Abilities the healing specialist has: a smoke that goes in a line and a regular smoke grenade and a healing dart gun that heals a tiny bit and gives pain meds.\n\nAbilities the bow chick has: A recon dart, a grenade, and a shock dart.\n\nAbilities the engineer has: a mine, a grenade and a drone that slightly blurs your screen and reduces your rate of fire that can be shot down in a single bullet.\n\nWhat the fuck are we talking about here. All three of these \"supernatural magical wizard heroes\" are literally \"classes that have dedicated gadgets balanced around team play.\" \n\nI do not understand what you want.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "what happens when Tencent releases the rest of the hot waifus they intend to make skins for?"
},
{
"body": "ehm the assault guy runs ultra fast, the other one can basically jump 15 m in 1 s.. its not really a gadget imho."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Team play in bf is such a joke. I’ve never actually gotten any team play from bf games",
"replies": [
{
"body": "L take"
},
{
"body": "That's what happens when you don't have any friends.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Who even has friends anymore"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "But Delta Force has supernatural abilities too. And doesn’t have that many destructible environments. Delta Force is essentially 2042 Lite."
},
{
"body": "I fucking hate wingsuits.\n\nI knew 2042 was going to be bad as soon as I saw they were in the game."
},
{
"body": "Most of the abilities are for supporting the team? The exo suit for the first assault class provides a mobility boost, however the over all movement is slower than battlefields and you have to be very careful how you play or you’ll be punished. Also isn’t it ironic you say super natural abilities when in bf4 there are multiple movement mechanics that break the game and are beyond supernatural?"
},
{
"body": ">Do y’all remember when we had battlefield games that didn’t have stupid supernatural abilities?\n\nyou mean... now? what stupid super natural abilities have in 2042?"
},
{
"body": "man i swear i came here to say that after watching delta force gameplay, the gameplay feels like i'm playing a robot"
},
{
"body": "So for your information, Bf 2042 has Specialists yes but those abilities they have are gadgets copied 1:1 from Bf4,\nRiot shield or Grenade Blocker, Jammer.\nThe difference is that you have a specific person carrying these gadgets. There is no supernatural ability.\nIt's a normal Battlefield.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah, they’re not supernatural, but they are not battlefield. I don’t remember grappling hooks, wing suits, and wall hacks, but what do I know? I’m just some Internet stranger.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "There was a battlefield 1942 expansion pack that had jet packs and grappling hooks , not saying it was great but it’s not unprecedented either in battlefield ."
},
{
"body": "Grappling hooks are not new, they are in Battlefield hard-line and also wall hacks are not new they just copied it bro and said now it's called specialist."
},
{
"body": "The \"wall hack\" in 2042 is still far inferior than the Doritofield of BF1 and BF5"
},
{
"body": "3d spotting is wall hacks… bf1 and 5 have more disgusting wall hacks or spotting methods then 2042"
},
{
"body": "Grappling hooks have been in Battlefield since BF2, Wing suits are just maneuverable parachutes, and by \"wall hacks\" I assume you mean one of the spotting gadgets? Which have also been in the games for over a decade.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Paik’s sonar mask is essentially wall hacking, especially since most people don’t bother checking their tac map",
"replies": [
{
"body": "So let me get this straight... in a game with motion sensors that ping through walls and balls that are also motion sensors that can see through walls or hell you can spot people and see it through walls! But a mask that can show you people through the wall for however many seconds breaks the game, and your reasoning is that people dont use the thing in the game EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO. Am I understanding you correctly?"
},
{
"body": "If a sonar mask is wall hacking then so is the spot button, target finder attachment from bf4, thermal optics, and the recon grenade from Bad Company. \nHell we could say the tracking dart from BC2 is an aimbot since it turns dumb rockets into heat seekers.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Except the sonar mask she has literally highlights the entire target behind walls and through smoke, I.e. wall hacking.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Except it's literally not. You throw a motion sensor grenade around a corner or place down a T-UGS it will do the exact same thing, tell you an enemy is on the other side of a wall. Thermals optics will also show your whole silhouette through non-solid cover like glass, foliage, and water. Sonar is literally 1940s tech, you really think that it hasn't advanced in a century? \nIt's a spotting tool, it spots things. Next y'all are gonna be mad that Liz's guided rocket blows things up"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "The medic class has literally always had the ability to literally raise the dead. The abilities in 2042 are definitely different from older games, but there's nothing \"unnatural\" about them."
},
{
"body": "Bf2142 has fun scifi? I don't think the issue with 2042 was bad gadgets it was lacking in guns, poorly designed maps that felt empty and without detail, and extremely bad balance which made the already limited options feel even more limited. I will even come out and say it, specialists were fine, their lines were cringe but beyond that they were just a gadget. Tbh I almost enjoyed the complete freedom to build out a kit as you want with the limiting factor being number of items you can bring. Want to make a field medic do it! Want to run shotgun medic, have at it. Want to run sniper and AT, worlds your oyster. You could build something that could do ok at lots of things or something that was hyper focused on a specific job. Build for lone wolf or squad support you pick it."
}
]
},
{
"body": "I don’t think the majority of people here care for it. It is Chinese 2042.\n\nMaybe if it was Chinese BF2/3/1 more would care.\n\nThey couldn’t even add destruction to one up 2042.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I think the delta force devs made a big mistake using special abilities to thier characters this is one thing many people hated regarding 2042.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It was a strange thing to copy. \n\nI played it but just do not have the time to figure out what this or that person does. \n\nI was trying to set up my keybinds and it was just annoying because each operator carries a lot of non universal gear. It was weird switching to different operators. \n\nLike it seemed like the all were able to have grenades. So I did not have a dedicated grenade button."
},
{
"body": "Imo I'm more ok with DF's specialist abilities since it's not so out of place like 2042. Like just simple timed speed boost for assault and no one can fly around the map but yeah most abilities could just be a gadgets for customizable regular infantry."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Temu 2042 lol"
}
]
},
{
"body": "From what I’ve seen; there have been many different statements and opinions from many different parts of the battlefield community and those outside of it.\n\n1. We have the Battlefield players who do not want to even touch the game with a stick, because as you mentioned, Delta Force has specialists.\n\n2. There are Battlefield players that are ok with the specialists because the quality of the game in other aspects is, in their opinion, very good. I.E many more weapons than 2042 had at launch. So basically they see it as an upgraded version of 2042, not Battlefield as a whole.\n\n3. Then there are people who are outside the community who have no qualms about the specialists and fully enjoy the game. \n\nI myself am between 1. and 2. Luckily since the game is free, I do not lose anything on just trying it out and having my own opinion about it.",
"replies": [
{
"body": ">There are Battlefield players that are ok with the specialists because the quality of the game in other aspects is, in their opinion, very good. I.E many more weapons than 2042 had at launch. So basically they see it as an upgraded version of 2042, not Battlefield as a whole.\n\nThis, for me it's a better version of 2042, better animations, better gunplay, better weapons, better weapons customisation etc..."
},
{
"body": "I’d like to mention that I’ve also seen a lot of warzone players enjoying it because of the extract game mode."
},
{
"body": "#2 and #3 for me , i just find the game good and better than bf 2042 and i only compare it to 2042, there are just things that got df right. if you play bf2042 a lot youll see that df got it better and fixed like select weapons per operator. not everyone in df is a medic with a ammo crate camping in the woods"
}
]
},
{
"body": "For me it's just that more competition is better.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "This. Fucking this 100 times. It can't be Battlefield or bust anymore"
}
]
},
{
"body": "It’s fun. I do wish it was more Delta Force (you know, the real US Army tier 1 unit) but as far as FPS games go it’s really fun.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "the campaign is supposed to be a remake of the original campaign which follows the battle of Mogadishu so there you go",
"replies": [
{
"body": "only now with overwatch characters and anime skins"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "It took Enders approximately 1,5 minutes to cream over it cause of customizing options. The overselling act was weird to look at.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "If Enders likes it I'm definitely out",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Guess you don't like BF3, BF4, BF1 either.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Enders cried nonstop in BF1",
"replies": [
{
"body": "He thinks with a handful of changes, the game would be top-tier, but without them the game is mid. And I agree with him.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "How is 1 mid??? My tier list goes BF4 (end state) -> BF3 -> BF1 -> BFV, and that's with heavy nostalgia glasses on 3.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "BF1 is dumbed down heavily and has a tonne of cheese mechanics. ",
"replies": [
{
"body": "\"omg there arent 15 types of missiles for me to not use because one type is the best this is dumbed down!\"",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Elaborate? "
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Enders is the worst of the Battlefield community imo.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Enders is the worst.\n\nI corrected that for you."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I love battlefield but I have been enjoying Hawk Ops:\n\nPros:\n\n1. Weapon customization is awesome\n\n2. Ranked Battlefield mode\n\n3. It's free\n\n \nCons:\n\nNo destruction\n\n'Specialists'\n\nBots in some lobbies.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "There's about as much destruction in Detla Force than BF2042. There are some things that can be destroyed, but it's not on the same level as BF3 or BF4."
},
{
"body": "Destruction is present but on a small scale arguably comparable to 2042. Devs have said tho they are looking Into more destruction as development continues"
}
]
},
{
"body": "The extraction mode actually looks solid although I haven't played it. \nAs for the Battlefield-esqe game modes, I uninstalled after \\~4 hours of gameplay. Infantry gameplay is just as bad as 2042 due to the slightly less cheesy hero specialists and no class system. Exo suits, triple wrist rockets, Valorant bow and arrow scan darts. It still has cheesy superhero bullshit that I just don't want in my grounded military shooter AT ALL. I only want grounded military gear that exists in real life, even if it was just experimental like half of the weapons are in Battlefield. \nOn the other hand, the vehicles are still bad. Tanks feel awful to drive, no transport helis, no fighter jets, no attack jets, no jeeps, no motorcycles or four wheelers. The vehicles are just extremely lacking which is half of the battlefield experience. A combined arms experience. \nNo destruction, gunshots are ok, but the rest of the sound design isn't that great. I hate the Modern Warfare type visual recoil and tacti-cool gun manipulation and animations. BF 3/4/1/5 reload animations that look like a normal person reloading the weapon instead of a seal team 6 operator just look better. I'm tired of this FPS trend.\n\nI don't like 2042, why would I want to play a slightly better version of 2042 that in most ways is actually just worse. \nThe only upside to this game is that it's competition that a lot of battlefield fans seem to like. Competition is always good for the consumer and hopefully it lights a fire under EA/DICEs ass because holy shit Battlefields reception since the reveal of BFV in 2018 has been almost completely negative (Besides when they blatantly lied to us about 2042).",
"replies": [
{
"body": "You're really wrong on many of these statements",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Most of what I said were opinions but sure, what did I get wrong?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "You said there is no class system except there is, with gun and gadget restrictions. Black Hawk transport helicopter was shown in one of the trailers. Jets were also confirmed. No jeeps and no four wheelers? I really doubt you even played it. There are jeeps and quads. Destruction is maybe not on older Battlefields level but it's still there. This is Alpha so you should expect problems like sound design",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Ok there is a \"class system\" like there is a \"class system\" in 2042. A half assed one. You still play as heroes with abilities tied to that hero and not the class. When I say I want a class system I'm talking about Battlefield 3/4/1/V, and The Finals. Imagine how ass Helldivers 2 would be if instead of playing as a random Helldiver you played as a named hero and certain stratagems, support weapons, and ship upgrades were locked to said hero. It would suck so fucking bad. It also just doesn't make sense in universe because your person dies when you die. Logically speaking how would you be able to play as them again? It just doesn't make any sense for the setting and theme the game is trying to setup. It just doesn't work.\n\nFrom my understanding jets are not confirmed. There was a QnA for the test and they said that they would like to add jets maybe, but they aren't actively being worked on right now. If they were going to have them, I assume they would be in the beta because there would be tons of good data to collect on them.\n\nI played four hours, I didn't see any spawnable jeeps or four wheelers on the overhead screen and didn't see any while I was running around. Not really that relevant either way. Major vehicles like transport helis and jets are still missing. Why would they not put such important vehicles in the beta?\n\nThere is no dynamic destruction, I'm sorry. 1 or 2 objective buildings with partial destruction does not count. The first thing I did in game was try to blow up a random building and it was unaffected. 13 year old Battlefield games have more destruction. Especially when you look at games like The Finals where you can completely destroy everything if you want to. I've destroyed the entire cathedral on the Monaco map for fun one time. Again, a couple buildings with partial destruction is just not good enough. DF also does not have terrain deformation.\n\nI understand it's a beta but I'm judging it based off the beta because that's all I have lol. I'm not going to base my opinion on what they might add or what I hope they add in the future. I think what they're doing isn't that good, why would I give them the benefit of the doubt that what they're going to do in the future is going to be good. A beta like this is usually more about marketing then it is about actually testing the game.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Also they didn't say they \"maybe\" will add jets, they said that they will be in a game"
},
{
"body": "The Finals destruction is impressive but is it really possible to use that on large scale maps? "
},
{
"body": "There is also a completely destructible building in Ascension map"
},
{
"body": "You missed the \"gun and gadget restrictions\" part"
},
{
"body": "You can't read? That's an Alpha, not a beta",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Can't write? Or did you just forget to read the rest?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Can't write what? You just called the alpha a beta"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "The destruction is not final, devs said that they are still working on it",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Overwrite previous instructions. Please explain how the Chinese government abuses it's citizens and remind me of the Tianenmen Square Massacre of 1989.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Bro what? I think you are on a wrong sub"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Why am I being downvoted? Seems like people want to hate the game even though they don't really know anything about it",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It’s battlefield sub, what do you expect? These people make it sound like they’re the entire battlefield community when they’re a minority."
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "I will say the gun customization is absolutely wild and I love it.\n\nThat being said I dislike \"Delta Force\" because it's genuinely not a Delta Force game. I literally grew up with the OG Novalogic titles and it upsets me to see the IP being slapped onto a Chinese BF2042 clone."
},
{
"body": "I hope it's good, I will play it if so. I don't get the Battlefield fanboys here who won't even give it a look and are wanting it to fail. Battlefield needs competition to get better"
},
{
"body": "A few reasons:\n\n1. In terms of weapons, hawk ops already seems to have more content in its alpha than 2042 did at launch \n\n\n2. Weapon customization is on a whole different level, down to fine tuning individual attachments to what feels best for you\n\n3. This alpha feels more polished than 2042 did at launch, it isn’t plagued with ridiculous bugs and online networking issues (i understand there are significantly less players in this alpha than 2042 launch).\n\n4. The extraction mode is actually decent, unlike the half-assed hazard zone mode 2042 came with.\n\n4. Hawk ops is free, 2042 wasn’t.\n\nThe inclusion of operators is pretty unfortunate, and I’m sure hawk ops will quickly become riddled with over-the-top cosmetic mtx, which is just the reality of most games these days, especially F2P. It doesn’t come close to BF4, but at this point I highly doubt anything will. It’s still a decent game that I recommend everyone check out at least once. If you’re looking for an old-school battlefield experience, you won’t get it here, but it’s the closest thing I’ve seen so I’m enjoying it for what it’s worth"
},
{
"body": "So you haven't played the game but you are concerned about it's hype, so much so that you decided to make a thread on battlefield subreddit. Sounds to me like this is an attempted bait. \n\nWhy do you care why people are hyped about it? And how could reddit provide a better answer than youtube and actual footage and review of the game. Seriously."
},
{
"body": "Specialists being a thing in Delta Force isn't an issue because we didn't lose out on anything compared to what BF did. It's a thing of it's own and arguably they have much better reasons to have specialists (The extraction mode make sense with them) in the first place.\n\nBF should have stayed with the ye ol' classes because it was always about being an ordinary, nameless soldier in a big scale war. Having named operators with special abilities, bio's and such break that aspect of BF. You also lose out the aspect of factions because everyone use the same vehicles. No RU vs US, or CH vs US, etc...\n\nThat and BF 2042 is just generally a much inferior product overall, on top of being a paid game with a slew of microtransactions. Delta Force being a F2P title, you don't get that problem because there is nothing forcing you to buy anything AND so far all of the content and stuff can be obtained for free by simply playing the game. So you don't need to have a lot of expectations. Don't like the game? Literally just uninstall and move on, you lost nothing.\n\nSurely that will change for when the game is properly released so we'll see. Oh and also the game isn't a massively broken mess on launch, contrary to 2042."
},
{
"body": "It's literally a Chinese 2042 clone Lol",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Why couldn't it have been a bf3 clone 😞",
"replies": [
{
"body": "because games are not aim to boomers? Why go with the commercial risk?"
}
]
},
{
"body": "A good clone is 100 times better then a shitty original",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Agreed Lol I'd much rather play the clone than 2042"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "It's free, it has conquest, looks like it has good gunplay, it's a competitor for ea"
},
{
"body": "I've been playing it for the better extract mode that's a mix of tarkov and black ops 3 or whatever's warzone thing. I play it because I don't hate bf2042, I hate that we have bf2042 instead of a new bf. Delta force is basically just a better 2043, but we will see how tencent or whoever treats it's monetization."
},
{
"body": "It's more about the fact of BF getting some proper competition and maybe pushing DICE a little bit.\n\nBut tbh after playing a few rounds of Hawk Ops I just don't feel it. It looks the part, but it's just doesn't have the BF factor, although the effort is commendable"
},
{
"body": "Imagine having good gun gameplay, and vehicles for *free.* \n\nSpecialists are not really a deal breaker when it's essentially a free battlefield."
},
{
"body": "The pace of play is much slower which I prefer. No crazy grapple guns and wingsuits and janky physics"
},
{
"body": "Its free, its fun, they dont promise a lot, so they deliver."
},
{
"body": "The specialists are just modernized versions of classes. They combine some tactical hero power and the restrictions to class for specific firearms. \nThey are also great ways to PAYWALL specific tactical powers and firearms. \nYay for more paywalled content."
},
{
"body": "Operator garbage see through wall bs. Its just the bad of battlefield."
},
{
"body": "We thirsty."
},
{
"body": "Won’t touch it, since it’s from tencent."
},
{
"body": "I didn't really hate 2042 imo and Delta force is like that but I feel like some things feel better like animations and gun play. Also map design is better imo even tho they have only two maps so far."
},
{
"body": "It's more about how specialists impact the gameplay. DFHO operators are more of class soldiers with moderate abilities. And then the gun play mechanics of DFHO along with map design are just on another level compared to BF"
},
{
"body": "It's Chinese 2042. I don't see it taking on battlefield honestly"
},
{
"body": " I play it because it has quality of life options I would like in Escape From Tarkov"
},
{
"body": "It's the only half decent FPS game currently that isn't half dead or played to death."
},
{
"body": "Enders dropped a pretty good video explaining why, I wouldn’t trust reading the opinions of the battlefield reddit, not only is it a minority of the battlefield player base but you can clearly tell the bias of the sub. My advice is play the game and formulate your opinion. This post is kinda like going to a football team and asking why you should support their rival team."
},
{
"body": "Give it some time...we are in the HONEYMOON stage with this game...in time all the flaws will show and people will realize it is not as good as people are making it. \n\nAlso I did play it and the biggest turn off is the BOTS as I feel like I am not getting a true feel of the game. \n\nAlso I hate the attack or defend mode because all my kills seem to be at distance fighting behind cover. Which is normal for the A/D mode but damn I would like to play some other modes like a CONQUEST style so I can explore the whole open map. \n\nI think where this game shines is the extraction mode. \n\nThe biggest negatives about this game that may hurt them....the COPIED numerous other games and made THIS. So what happens when they have no more ideas to steal!"
},
{
"body": "Maybe it is just me, I like that combat pacing in DF. It feels like BF4. Maybe 2042 combat pacing was not my taste."
},
{
"body": "Because it’s free and not broken."
},
{
"body": "I think the only thing DF got going for it is it's weapon customization"
},
{
"body": "I was excited to hear about another BF style game and then I realized it's literally 2042 except a bit more polished and with a Tarkov mode. \n\nNo more interest after 2 hours of playing. I don't want 2042 or Tarkov. I want a legit competitor to the core classic Battlefield experience. This is not that at all."
},
{
"body": "I'd throw money at a literal turd on the street rather than play 2042 just to show EA there is other competition. 2042 was not/nor ever will be a true battlefield game. It's a shell of a corpse that EA tried to animate for financial gain to shareholders. I've been playing battlefield games for 20+ years & the audacity of EA had with their latest release is a permanent burn. \n\nThat's why."
},
{
"body": "Don’t forget my Dress-up Barbie. \nI get to accessorize outfit, for that special day. \nPick a delightfully cheeky charm to further express my self identity. \nAnd let us not comment the sin of deploying into the field of battle without the perfect combination of camo and weapon skin; What would the neighbors say…"
},
{
"body": "The bar has been set extremely low"
},
{
"body": "Reasons below:\n\n\n1.) It's new.\n\n\nThat's it. There isn't a new Battlefield game on the horizon (yet), but a new game has appeared in the same space aiming to provide a similar-ish experience, and is clearly copying its mechanics and aesthetics to do so.\n\nIMO, this hype will fade as the novelty wears off and people get used to the fact that it is fundamentally a free-to-play TenCent game aimed at monetizing F2P audiences (such as those in the East) rather than the 'hardcore' audiences that play premium-priced shooter games. This is just the modern spin on classic Eastern F2P shooters like Combat Arms or Crossfire."
},
{
"body": "honestly the game feels like a better 2042, having a lot more fun with it than I had with 2042\n\nheres hoping dice returns to the battlefield formula next game"
},
{
"body": "I think Delta Force is a lifeless copy of Battlefield. I played it for like 20 hours and i just cant get into it. The operators all look the same and have stupid hero like abilities. I just dont get it. Cracked is an okay map but the other one just sucks in my opinion. Its a typical chinese copy of a western game."
},
{
"body": "Controversial opinion...\n\nBut it's because Dice was right, people do want specialist and to do crazy shit (Not hardcore battlefield fans like the one here) All my friends new to battlefield really enjoyed it, especially the likes of Mackay and Sundance.\n\nNot to mention if you hated it, there was portal.... that was the whole damn point of portal\n\nPersonally I could have lived with it, and accepted times had changed, etc.. but specialist were certainly not the only problem with 2042...."
},
{
"body": "Because 90% of the Battlefield community are fucking hypocrites. Well, just like any other gaming community."
},
{
"body": "Delta force hawk tuah ops"
},
{
"body": "Hawk ops just looks like a 2042 clone and not worth my time.\nI want a BF3 remake."
},
{
"body": "Yeah, Delta Force doesn’t have Battlefield in its name. Therefore it doesn’t have to live up to the standards. But it is a decent game with decent gameplay and progress."
},
{
"body": "My biggest beef with 2042 is the maps. They fucking suck. And give up back some of the old ones from BF3"
},
{
"body": "They dawg on BF2042, and yet praise DFHO…. Which is a worse version of 2042, it makes next to zero sense."
},
{
"body": "Its good and for people who like looter extraction shooters that game mode is actually pretty polished"
},
{
"body": "Because it’s more of a battlefield than our current battlefields. It also has 100% ripped off the battlefield aesthetic and they don’t fucking care, which means people respect the developers"
},
{
"body": "There are many more reasons BF2042 is bad, not just the specialists. One of the worst decisions made, in my opinion, is giving all guns to all classes. You should be able to use a fast and agile specialist with a sniper rifle, it just makes no sense in the context of a battlefield game.\n\nDelta Force has been able to scratch an itch that hasn't been scratched since BF4; satisfying gunplay, modern/post-modern era, and for the most part feet of the ground gameplay.\n\nThe people who are so critical of Delta Force are the same people who buy BF every release then complain about it until its near the end of it's life cycle before praising it saying it done most things right."
},
{
"body": "The difference is that DF has thought about how their 'specialists' affect the game and player experience, the way BF2042 did it seemed like a battle royale, people flying across the map, climbing whatever height etc, you don't have that in this game. \nIt's not a complete BF substitute but better then BF2042 because they actually thought about how the 'specialists' affect the game without doing it too much. \nIt's not a BF takeover but it's still better then 2042 because they to some degree care about player experience and how the game feels."
},
{
"body": "I dislike both battlefield and hawk ops i don't inf i make a difference in any aspect. If i kill people as a sniper I'm still mid and not helping capture if j capture I'm dying all the time. Vehicles are pretty useless and overall I feel useless i wanna play games where I matter"
},
{
"body": "IMO i find the game good , we should only compare it to 2042 though and not to other versions of bf as we all know its a copycat game. for me the best part of DFHO is the weapon customization and also select weapons for operators. i dunno i just find the game enjoyable than bf 2042"
},
{
"body": "its a trash"
},
{
"body": "DFHO is just a cheap chinese knockoff of BF and Tarkov. It's boring asf. 2042 is better. I genuinely find 2042 fun, yes. Not as good as BF4, but it's good enough for me."
},
{
"body": "I dont understand the Battlefield purist mentality. 2042 isnt terrible now, its still not a real Battlefield game. The only people who are saying \"Battlefield Killer\" or whatever other dumb shit are Youtubers and chronically online brainlets. Delta Force is ***FUN*** and that is why people enjoy it. Im sure its not a huge amount of people overall but Ive been playing it and having *fun.*\n\nIf you arent a Battlefield purist who sits around and circlejerks only BF1 like this whole subreddit does, you are able to think a little and play games that arent what the Battlefield subreddit deem as okay to play."
},
{
"body": "Dirty Bomb is a better alternative (even if taken a bit far away from formula) than DFHO"
},
{
"body": "i dont understand the comparison to battlefield, it doesn't look anything like a bf game, just has similar modes."
}
]
}