{
"post": {
"title": "ALL SORCERESS-THEMED Skills in Path of Exile 2 so far (Dreamcore)",
"selftext": "",
"url": "https://youtu.be/IY4h36g2El8?si=eSqzSr8lUNj7uj1q"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "One thing I noticed about all of the skills is that they all seem to have much higher mana costs as well as critical strike chance in PoE 2 as compared to skills in PoE 1. The Spirit mechanic for reservations explains the mana cost adjustment somewhat, as we'll have our mana available for casting, but I wonder about the crit changes.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They said in exilecon that they want much more variation in crit. Daggers will have 15% base crit chance, flails have 10% base, and other weapons will have around 5% to 7%"
},
{
"body": "I think it also relates to the point Jonathon made in one of the recent interviews where he doesn’t want crit to be as much of an all or nothing stat like it is in poe1.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I know very little about PoE1, but I feel like games where you're expected to cap your crit chance are kind of missing the point of crit.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "In PoE1, you're not 'expected' to cap crit by design. The player base have just mathed it out and figured out that in the current state of the game, crits are simply the best scaling vector for most skills.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah and that's why they are changing how crit multiplier works in poe 2, it's too strong in poe 1",
"replies": [
{
"body": "i didn't know the multiplier is working differently in poe2. how is it being adjusted?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I don't think they went into details, just said it's changing",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I'd imagine the initial hit will play a bigger role into how crits are calculated",
"replies": [
{
"body": "What do you mean by this? Crits are currently directly proprtional with the original hit.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Higher base multiplier and less multiplier from your gear and passives. You have more than 60% multiplier baseline but can't stack it up to 800%"
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "'expected' by the build meta, not by game design. Essentially they gave enough sources that getting crit cap is always more powerful than other options in your build. In PoE2 they can either just give less sources to make it unachievable, or make the trade offs weigh more."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "The only way you ever do that is by massively restricting crit damage. Otherwise, the exponential gains of crit just absolutely push you into an all-or-nothing situation.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I almost wish that crit damage was the only available stat. And crit chance was soft locked at base value."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Do we know if crits still guarantee elemental ailments? Ailment chance still seems kinda useless if that is the case",
"replies": [
{
"body": "We have Cast on Shock now, so extra chance to shock can be a big deal."
},
{
"body": "from the interviews it seems like applying ailments is much more of a hassle to do. so i would be VERY surprised if crits apply ailments. they seem to want ailments to be an investment with much higher impact on actual gameplay"
}
]
},
{
"body": "To throw another layer of complexity into the mix, I believe they stated that each support gem can only be used once across all skills. So if they still exist, crit chance and crit damage might make sense for a specific skill, but maybe won’t be as spammable with higher mana costs. \n\nI’ll be very excited to see if someone is able to get to 100% crit chance with their build in PoE 2 and not need the crit chance support at all."
}
]
},
{
"body": "The video is showing firebolt instead of fireball, and is missing the videos of frost wall, lightning warp, lightning conduit and firestorm — I watched **every** footage of PoE 2 that came out so I know they were shown. It's also completely missing Freezing Shards.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Freezing shards was a staff skill though wasn’t it?",
"replies": [
{
"body": "True"
}
]
},
{
"body": "can you give a hint where warp was shown? or freezing shards? firebolt was the staff innate, correct? fireball was an actual skill i think"
}
]
},
{
"body": "I can't even imagine all the possible combos. I dream for an elementalist crossbow rocket launcher sorc with a grenade assault rifle on her back spreading the word of fire across the land."
},
{
"body": "The main reason I've never played firestorm is because it overlaps the whole screen and my character. And oh my, just look at this sexy firestorm we will have in poe2",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Well they removed the initial giant meteor so it should be much better."
},
{
"body": "He doesn't have a clip of what Firestorm looks like in PoE 2 tho. Atm all we have is the skill tooltip.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "AngryJoeShow (youtube) has some sorceress gameplay from the latest playtest where you can see the new firestorm. It looks sexy indeed",
"replies": [
{
"body": "yeah, but where is my fuc.... meteor??? i want to throw burning rocks from outer space on enemies god damn it!"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Those skills look INSANE .. Cant wait for the Beta!"
},
{
"body": "My favourite character in rpgs is always the sort of «mage», because of the variety of types of skills they have («magic» can basically be anything). These skills look so good, excited to try it out!"
},
{
"body": "Is there any way to play this game now? It looks so good.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Note that you don't HAVE to buy a supporter pack - the game will still be free to play when it launches, the packs just let you have early access for the beta. They'll likely widen the pool of people in the beta over time."
},
{
"body": "Closed beta is in Q4 2024, aiming for November. You'll be able to get in by buying a supporter pack after they announce the details."
}
]
},
{
"body": "Pretty skills \nlikely to be visually difficult with small room and bosses \nstill, game will be having some glorious visuals to play with"
},
{
"body": "why fireball looks like firebolt and frostbolt looks like frostball?"
},
{
"body": "A wizard would have been way cooler"
},
{
"body": "It's the same skills from PoE 1, c'mon, be more creative GGG, this is boring"
}
]
}