{
"post": {
"title": "Gathering affects Skill Fruit Tree “Harvesting”",
"selftext": "I just setup a base near a skill fruit tree and noticed my Knocklem depositing 6 skills fruits (2x of 3 different fruits) from one cycle.\n\nTo find out what was causing this, I tested the following by setting the pal to harvest 1 cycle from 1 fruit tree and found this:\n\nKnocklem (Max Condense) - 6 fruits\nKnocklem (No Condense) - 6 fruits\nVerdash (Max Condense) - 6 fruits\nVanwyrm (No Condense) - 3 fruits\n\nSeems that for some reason the gathering level bonus (level 3 and above providing 2x drop rate) affects skill fruits. So I believe that any transporter with a gathering level 3 or above might be able to do this. Not sure if it is a bug or intended. Also would be interesting to see if this works with eggs.",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1f5t98n/gathering_affects_skill_fruit_tree_harvesting/"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "Wait. Pals can grab skill fruits off of the trees. I didn’t know that.",
"replies": [
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"body": "Yup, but they will need to have the transporting work suitability, access to the tree and a storage to deposit it into",
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"body": "Do the trees always have the same 3 moves each time? Or are they random? Cuz I could totally set up some mini bases for that. \n\nIf they are the same. What are some of the best spots?",
"replies": [
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"body": "Random"
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"body": "I would recommend -139,581. You can mine for quartz while being in range of the skill fruit tree.\n\nIf you intend on setting up a mini base, the skill fruit trees on Sakurajima would be best as they are the only ones that spawn the new skill fruits which tend to be stronger."
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{
"body": "It's random from a pool of available fruits based on the region the tree is in. For example you cannot get Hydro Jet from skill fruit trees on Sakurajima."
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"body": "Hello, thank you for this great revelation about skill fruit farming. I had no idea this was possible.\n\nI bred some nocturnal Knocklems to replace my Wixen Nocts/Kattress/Depressos that were previously manning my 4 skill fruit bases.\n\nSo far I have only gotten 2x of a single type of skill fruit from the Knocklems. It's not clear to me if the spawns are staggered for some reason (possibly a delay in the transport time for a level 1 transporter when I'm away from the base?) so I am resetting all of the trees and then will test the Knocklems again. I turned off their work suitabilities to respawn all of the fruits. \n \nHave you run into anything like this before? \n \nI've been farming skill fruits like this for about 6 months and 2-3 months ago I noticed that some of my skill fruit totals on some trees were off -- it almost seemed like I was getting 1 or 4 fruits instead of the full 3. Sometimes I only had 2. \n \nIn other words, I don't think the problem is from the Knocklems or from your strategy. When I first started, all of the fruits were synced up and eventually they have fallen out of sync. \n \nIf you recently started this farming project, you may have not noticed it yet, but there does seem to be an extended delay between skill fruit harvests which only grows with time, at least for level 1 transporters. \n \nI have had this setup with 4 skill fruit bases since Sakurajima came out. Previously I only had 1 but it was at my main base. I did notice some discrepancies back then but not frequently enough to think anything of it. \n \nNow that I have more and have tried your new idea (which is really great btw) I noticed this problem.",
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"body": "Hi, just trying to contribute back to the community! I have not run into any issues with my skill fruit trees falling out of sync. The only issue i had was with one of my knocklems being stuck in the river at the skill fruit tree near the knocklem boss which resulted in it being unable to harvest the skill fruits. Could there be a similar pathing issue for your setups?\n\nOne other issue I had was with at my mining base, when I set my day/night time to 5, my nocturnal knocklems no longer had enough time to transfer all the mined ores into storages as the miners slept and so ended up not harvesting the skill fruit trees (I believe this is very low in terms of priority).\n\nIm not entirely sure about the extended delay, I did setup my skill fruit tree farming bases recently so I’ll try to pay attention and see if the fruit respawn starts getting longer. Thanks for raising that point of concern.\n\nOther than that, I can’t say I have run into any other issues. Could you detail your skill fruit base farming setup?",
"replies": [
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"body": "Sure, they are the extremely bare bones setups I recommended on here a few months ago: Palbox, Refined Metal Storage Cabinet, and 1 pal with no food.",
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"body": "Don’t they refuse to work if they starve and their sanity drains without a way to increase it? My skill fruit farming base setup is. 2x refined metal chest (tho I know sakurajima skill fruit trees only spawn 37 diff fruits), 1x luxury bed (even tho the pal is nocturnal, just in case), 1x high quality hot spring (to restore san) and 1x food box with pizza",
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"body": "Nope you don't need any of that extra stuff. They will keep transporting just fine. Every one I had was starving and depressed before I replaced them with Knocklems, who will have the same fate.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Oh man, I could never haha",
"replies": [
{
"body": "They are not alive or real so I don't care that much. It's literally just pixels and C# objects. I have two dogs and I would never treat them that way, but Pals are not real."
}
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},
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"body": "So on your fruit tree base was there anything else at all? Or just gatherer and fruit tree?",
"replies": [
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"body": "I had full mining setup, but when I tested it was just a storage box",
"replies": [
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"body": "I think it has more to do with how much transporting the base requires. So I guess im trying to figure out how controlled your environment was.",
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"body": "When I found out initially it was at my mining base so it had alot of other stuff. To control the environment I flew to the other trees around the map and just setup the palbox, a storage and a monitoring stand (to set the pal to transport only) and repeated with different pals. Hopefully this helps.\n\nAlso forgot to mention I tested Wumpo (No Condense) and it gave 3 fruits as well",
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"body": "Very cool. Im a nerd so I like to know the details!\n\nI set up a base for my daughter on my server at the Anubis statue at the volcano. May as well utilize it.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Me too, enjoy!"
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"body": "I didn't know this but thankfully Paldb has all the info, god i love the site.\n\nHere's the source: [https://paldb.cc/en/Gathering](https://paldb.cc/en/Gathering)\n\nFor those that dont want to check link\n\nLv. 1 70 (DropNumRate x1) \nLv. 2 150 (DropNumRate x1.5) \nLv. 3 300 (DropNumRate x2) \nLv. 4 500 (DropNumRate x2.5) \nLv. 5 1000 (DropNumRate x3)\n\nThe 70/150/300/500/1000 are the \"Base\" workspeeds that is affected by passives later. It's another 1 of them stupid \"It's there but u just can't see it in game\" stats. Rendu (digtoise guy) Actually found the x1/1.5/3/5/10 values himself through testing so know about it for ages xD",
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"body": "Sorry to bring this up after so long, but does this mean a max Condense Verdash/Knocklem with Artisan, Work Slave and Serious hit the 1000 rating needed to harvest 3 Skill Fruit per pick? Or is the Work Speed from traits something different than the Work Speed from Work Suitability?",
"replies": [
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"body": "I... Am not actually sure. I originally thought they were separate and only given to the gathering level but now that ur saying it, lv4 with +100% workspeed passives to reach the 1,000... I'll need to check that. Been a long time since I played pal world now, something to check tomorrow",
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"body": "Cool. I'd check myself, but currently I don't have any bases to spare *or* a Work Speed Verdash or Knocklem."
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"body": "The trouble with this is: \nThe only pal with level four gathering is Frostallion Noct \nBefore learning that \"gathering\" skill level effected skill fruit harvesting, all I had at my skill fruit bases were level 1 transporters. \nIn other words, pals do not need the gathering skill to harvest skill fruits, only Transport. \nThus, there doesn't seem to be a way to get Frostallion Noct to do the harvesting and another pal to do the transport without the transport pal interfering.\n\nI honestly don't think Frostallion Noct will harvest skill fruits at all because it can't transport them afterwards, but maybe it will and then drop them, leaving them for another pal to pick up and transport?\n\nWill the game prioritize the pal that can do both?\n\nI really don't know how this will play out. Only just getting around to testing OP's revelation after reading it a few days ago."
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}