{
"post": {
"title": "Palworld only gave us gameplay...and it worked! Right?",
"selftext": "I've just made an observation, correct me if I'm wrong, but...\n\nPalworld released this beta with literally no story, no NPCs to give you quests, no immersive music experience (none that I noticed at least).\n\nThe game was literally published with the gameplay only...and it worked like a charm, hence the steam player base.\n\nThere are still some kinda game breaking bugs like the faulty base building and path tracing, and I for one, get a \"game save error\" every few minutes. But these shall be solved for sure in the next updates.\n\nIf ir scores so high on the leaderboards, I can't even imagine how it will be like when they actually polish the game including the bugs, the story, the storytelling and other things.\n\nPS: With such a playerbase I believe if the big guys succeed with a lawsuit, they will face harsh backlash from the gamer community, including their own player bases.",
"url": "https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1acb1xk/palworld_only_gave_us_gameplayand_it_worked_right/"
},
"comments": [
{
"body": "Constant text would have killed this game from the start",
"replies": [
{
"body": "You want to collect cool pals?! \n \nHere fucker, wake up in your undies and go get them!* \n \n \n* Top right has some hints so you won't get lost, who TF needs boring tutorial overlays, right?! \n \nLove it.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "That tutorial is the ultimate troll though. Get your base to level 7, now you are ready, go get wrecked by Grizzbolt.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "I ended up doing the grizzbolt fight before getting a lvl 7 base. I just ended up cheesing him from behind a pillar while my lvl 10 pal did all the work"
}
]
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "There are notes spread all over the place and NPC for dialogue about the story.. You have these huge towers in each zone that is the story. Quest is on each base level up..\n\nIt has all those, not just in the typical way..",
"replies": [
{
"body": "is there a place to see the journal entries? I have been picking them up without any idea of what they are or where to find them.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Memo! \nIts in the same page of the pause menu as options.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "oh yes indeed there it is. Thank you!!"
}
]
},
{
"body": "In the pause menu > memos IIRC"
}
]
},
{
"body": "Journal entries are more like the back story of Palworld and not YOUR story as a player. Don't have to be the chosen one but they do need a story for the players progression, other than just Leveling up and upgrading your technologies.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "[deleted]",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Except for the fact that you can do everything out of order because it's an open world."
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "You said it. For people like your or me it’s there. Maybe not much but I love the the little story bits. But I have friends who didn’t read a word of that stuff and it’s fine they have the same fun/addiction. Cause the gameplay doesn’t depend on the story."
}
]
},
{
"body": "tbh?i dont think this genre suited for a story. Its open world crafting, alot of games tries to tell a story but the openess of the genre means they always fail .Im fine if they dont focus much on story,but rather making quest to give players some objectives to do like \"kill or capture specific pals\" for rewards or to help lessen the grind is fine",
"replies": [
{
"body": "It doesn’t need a ton. But to tie the towers and a few dungeons to a basic storyline and some background info a few quests that give useful rewards like 50 pal fluids for capturing ur first 10 water guys. Little things doesn’t need a huge storyline. But would make it easy to add arenas for pvp or endless wave event etc"
},
{
"body": "Having a baseline story and lore does work and is fine for a game like this. It worked in Ark in pretty much a similar fashion as what they are doing here with the notes. All Ark did was give you a backstory of those that came before you, and the story is just “find us”. You then create your own story and path your own journey with the game just acting as reflection of your experience as you reach the end goal of each map.\n\nThis game doesn’t need a deep dive story to force a player into sure, but some elements of one to just send you out into the world at your leisure to make your own story path would be nice for the devs to flesh out in the future."
},
{
"body": "I want to know what happened to earth where spark plugs are now considered crystals of ancient technology"
},
{
"body": "It doesnt need a main quest, but maybe NPCs with their own goals and aspirations perhaps for some of the NPC settlements and faction questlines might be nice. "
}
]
},
{
"body": "The only real glitch I encountered was while exploring. There’s some area in the north west that I kept falling through the ground into an underground river.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Happened to me around the brothers of the pyre or something like that."
},
{
"body": "There are areas around the goblins I keep falling through and a really small area near the volcano."
}
]
},
{
"body": "I had a 4 player game last night, all the glitches, had to restart twice. Dropped items got lost into the ether...... STILL LOVE THIS GAME"
},
{
"body": "Works for souls games ( yes i know there are quests and lore)"
},
{
"body": "Because, at their core, video games are about GAMEPLAY. Yet we had so many games in recent years where gameplay is a filler or just a way to get the story going. It's refreshing to get a game with minimal exposition. Story should complement the gameplay and give a break from action, not be a movie where you press A to progress dialog. \n\nSure would be nice to get those towns fleshed out, but for now I like this approach of 'here you see those towers? Check it if you want but you do you'",
"replies": [
{
"body": "That's a good assessment. I totally agree.\nIt's a good approach. I don't say they should've added those, it's pretty good for an early access.\nI mean, remember cyberpunk 2077 when it first launched in full version? God....",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah! Honestly it speaks volumes about current state of game releases that we lose our mind if a game comes that plays mostly bug free, is feature complete and have no micro transactions or a shop. And as if today, from the patch notes I have seen, they already addressed most of those bugs! This is insane!"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "What immersive music experience were you looking for exactly? Cause I mean they have different songs for when you’re battling one type of enemy vs if another type joins in, and I thought that was fairly unique"
},
{
"body": "> the faulty base building and path tracing \n\nThe word you're looking for is 'path finding'. \nAKA non player entities' programming related to how they move around the world and obstacles.\n\nNot to be confused with 'ray tracing' which is related to how game engines handle light bounces during rendering.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yeah, Ik, just had a brain fart"
}
]
},
{
"body": "there is a story read the notes... listen to some of the NPCs... DID U EVEN PLAY THE GAME>?!?!",
"replies": [
{
"body": "Yes, but didn't interact much with npcs"
}
]
},
{
"body": "TPC has nothing which is why the game is up. Time to move on from that"
},
{
"body": ">Palworld released this beta with literally no story, no NPCs to give you quests, no immersive music experience \n\nNo, it was never going to have any of this. It's a survival game. Also, I wouldn't hold my breath for the game, Craftopia is still a buggy mess and it had EA release 4 Sep, 2020. They're already working on their next EA game.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "the reason i think that palworld will get more attention then craftopoa is that no one cares about craftopia and most people don’t know it exists.\n\n\nmeanwhile palworld is a record breaking cash printing machine that the entire world and mainstream are paying attention to. \n\nso while not impossible that they neglect it, i’m more leaning towards them at least giving it more attention than craftopia",
"replies": [
{
"body": "For sure this, done right they will all be billionaires in 10 years.\n\nMerch alone if they can keep the fanbase happy will keep their kids rich for years to come."
},
{
"body": "I don't think they will neglect it on purpose. What I've seen with Craftopia, I don't think they have the required know how or knowledge to actually fix the game or developed those things they are promising in the roadmap. \n\nThis might be a hot take here when people are all coped up with Palworld, but I don't think a developer should be allowed to have 4 Early access games running on Steam at the same time. It should be required to finish something before you are allowed to make another one.",
"replies": [
{
"body": "i’m not like obsessed with palworld or even care about the company but i absolutely think a company can have as many early\naccess titles as they want before finishing a game"
}
]
}
]
},
{
"body": "Craftopia is still being worked on. It’s already gotten another patch. And the previous one was Dec. along with a roadmap. They have a different team working on it."
},
{
"body": "People big mad for the truth. I loved craftopia too."
}
]
},
{
"body": "It had a lazy ass way to tell a story like survivor notes on ark."
},
{
"body": "The story in this game is presented much the same way as in Ark. Through notes you can find around the world.\n\n\nIt also isn't unheard of for the genre to have the story not be so in-your-face."
},
{
"body": "The main factor was the pals having similar figure to pokemon and then them wielding guns. Its more popular than it should because people found that it's fun to play and it's the pokemon game that everyone wanted. Hence the massive player."
}
]
}